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Post by rhyswh on Mar 18, 2016 12:54:03 GMT
So I got a das6 off the wife for Christmas. I have no idea about polish and pads so just looking for some help.
Basically I want to make my cars shiny!
The stages I would like to do.
Polish (cut?)
Polish (gloss?)
Wax (protection)
Does that make sense?
So what pads and products do I need?
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Post by japanesewookie on Mar 18, 2016 20:42:46 GMT
I've used the 3m range and a few products from meguiars. Pads wise I've used the 3m foam, meguiars microfibre and chemical guys hexlogic foam pads.
The 3m and chemicals guys guys gets my vote. But buy a few and try them out.
As for which pad, match the pad for the polish. A heavy cut polish with a heavy cut pad.
I am only a hobbiest though, not had any training or read about it. Just bought some products and had a go.
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Post by guitarjon on Mar 18, 2016 23:41:51 GMT
On a da I'd recomend hex logic pads (not the copies). There isn't a fortune in it but the real ones don't seem to be quite as easily available.
On an mx5 (providing you know what you are doing) you can cut with a yellow hex pad and something like megs 105.
You can then refine with a white and megs 205 (very nice polish)
If you want even more go for some sort of glaze on a black pad.
If you are a novice I'd probably reccomend going for a green heavy polish pad instead of the yellow as you could do damage.
Mx5 paint is old and often thin. It's not always a soft as people think due to the fact it's either usually had resprayed panels or the sun has baked it hard over the years. People mistake thin paint for soft paint. In fairness using a DA won't get you into trouble quickly but it still can.
People will reccomend you start with something like 205 on a green pad which isn't a pad combo for a one hit but I've detailed probably around 80 mx5s in the last few years and found the yellow pad and 105 seems to work very well at a reasonable rate.
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Post by rhyswh on Mar 19, 2016 9:35:51 GMT
I am definitely a novice! I've never used it before so don't want to make a mess of my paint.
So I could go green pad with Megs 205, then maybe a black pad with what polish? Do you have to buy polish made for machine polishers? I have meguiars gloss polish if not.
Again, can I use normal wax or does it have to be one made for machine polishers?
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Post by guitarjon on Mar 20, 2016 7:31:23 GMT
205 is a polish which cleans and finishes more than cuts. It probably won't get every scratch out but might do ok on the swirls. Might just take a bit longer/ more hits.
I'm not a big fan of machine polished waxes. I'd rather just use a hard wax by hand. You can use any.
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Post by guitarjon on Mar 28, 2016 22:54:03 GMT
Had any chance to have a go at anything yet mate?
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Post by rhyswh on Mar 28, 2016 23:16:43 GMT
Not yet, currently swapping parts over to my new mx5 so hoping to get some stuff bought and used in the next month. Will update once I've had a go.
Need to get rid of swirls mainly so should the 205 be ok?
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Post by guitarjon on Mar 31, 2016 23:38:48 GMT
Yeah,you'll need a pad with a fair bit of cut and you may need to go at it a few times though as its not a heavy cut polish.
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Post by rhyswh on Apr 1, 2016 11:33:32 GMT
Considering going for the 105 as well then but a little scared of it lol
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Post by rhyswh on Apr 1, 2016 20:25:24 GMT
I read somewhere that the 5.5" pads are better than the 6" pads on a 5" backplate. Does it really matter? Can't seem to find a black 5.5" pad, would red be ok for finishing?
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Post by rhyswh on Apr 1, 2016 20:28:24 GMT
Actually found them now but should I go 5.5 or 6"?
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Post by guitarjon on Apr 2, 2016 21:11:46 GMT
5.5 pads if you can. The DA you have isn't very powerful so a bigger pad will make it even harder work.
You'll be fine with 105 but go easy.
The fear instilled in most people is burning the paint not so much going through (although this is what people think burning is). Your not going to burn or go through half as quick with your DA as you would a rotary, that said it can be done. Just use lots of common sense and go for it.
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Post by rhyswh on Apr 2, 2016 23:09:04 GMT
How much pressure do I put on the polisher?
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Post by guitarjon on Apr 3, 2016 20:55:35 GMT
Try it and you'll work it out. If it's bogging down ease up. As I said, they aren't powerful enough to damage quick they just stop. Rule of thumb, put a black mark on the edge of the baking plate and you should be aiming to see it spin twice per second iirrc. May not be that quick I'm not sure,
Main thing is to keep hand/ movement speed slow. Check out some videos on YouTube (junkman springs to mind) or even the meguiars training video. Move the polisher around too quickly and the polishing action will be inefficient and can leave marks. Where do you live? Migt be worth seeing if anybody can give you a hand or show you what's what. I've got my own car to do on Tuesday so happy to give a master class haha. I'm in South Yorkshire.
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Post by rhyswh on Apr 3, 2016 21:17:06 GMT
I'm down in Wiltshire so a little far lol
I watched a video of chemical guys detailing an mx5 yesterday and feel a lot more confident now. I'm going to Japday on May 14th so decided to leave it until then to get it looking good for the stand! Might do it the week before.
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le sigh