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Post by V6 on Dec 25, 2019 19:01:03 GMT
I think this route will help protect their image as well. They won't allow badly fitted kits onto rust heaps. Certainly the easy option.
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Post by Vindi (Russell) on Dec 26, 2019 10:14:13 GMT
I think this route will help protect their image as well. They won't allow badly fitted kits onto rust heaps. Certainly the easy option. Agreed, there have been a few done with cheap, high mileage donor engines that have blown up or not performed well ... I'd guess they'll have influenced the decision as well. Although why you'd spend £10k on a kit and then try to save £200 on the main part of the kit is beyond me! Russell |
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Post by V6 on Dec 26, 2019 15:02:16 GMT
To quote Wannabe's favorite saying... "Do it once and do it properly". This was my mission from the start, even though it took a lot longer than I'd have liked. It really started by chosing such a clean base car, even though it had zero spec I wanted on it. All the upgrade parts added hugely to the cost but at least the foundation was good. I tried to make sure all the parts were decent and well researched along the way too. Anyway... I'm bored of the break now. I want to drive! Damn rain and waiting!  |
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Post by martiny on Dec 26, 2019 16:28:03 GMT
A year or so ago I was pretty gung-ho for the Rocketeer swap and was really just waiting for the first few guinea pigs to iron out any niggles and report their happy results. But it didn't really seem to go as smoothly as that. The excellent "Jazda" videos were both an inspiration and a caution. I sure hope he gets it finished as it should be awesome, but imagine the frustration of pouring in all that time, money and effort only to discover the used engine you got needs a rebuild.
Do I recall correctly that Rocketeer switched ECU partway through the year too? The kits were shipping with a custom ME442 IIRC, but either they (or maybe just some customers on their own initiative) seem to have moved to a different model.
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Post by V6 on Dec 26, 2019 16:57:52 GMT
Talking of ECUs, I went with AEM for mine as all the Honda scene use them in USA. The custom loom for mine was an "off the shelf" item from a partner of my kit supplier. So it was literally plug and play. My only caution would be... order your AEM from USA and get far better backup. To hell with the import tax, which was negligable anyway (if you use a decent dealer to tweak the forms). The UK dealer backup was appalling. Then they moved. Then closed. Then opened up with another name, but same crew. All in all shocking service and they wasted 1.5 months of my time.
Alternatively get something from the UK with known good backup here. Then get your loom made here as well. It's just if the ECU you chose is say made in USA, I'd buy direct from USA. That way you avoid being a ping pong ball between / on the end of Chinese Whispers with a mere box seller and the real technical backup over seas.
Anyway I have links for trusted sellers if anyone wishes to follow my mad path.
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Post by jon on Dec 27, 2019 10:18:31 GMT
Do I recall correctly that Rocketeer switched ECU partway through the year too? The kits were shipping with a custom ME442 IIRC, but either they (or maybe just some customers on their own initiative) seem to have moved to a different model. I read somewhere that they and ME had a very big falling out, which is why they switched to their own ECU... |
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Post by V6 on Dec 27, 2019 11:00:11 GMT
Car electronics are a pain in the rear canoe. I'd seriously consider going for carbs on my next / dream future car project. Screw mpg. Less potential failure hassle is appealing.
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Post by fellows on Dec 27, 2019 11:06:29 GMT
Do I recall correctly that Rocketeer switched ECU partway through the year too? The kits were shipping with a custom ME442 IIRC, but either they (or maybe just some customers on their own initiative) seem to have moved to a different model. I read somewhere that they and ME had a very big falling out, which is why they switched to their own ECU... They did indeed. Rocketeer now use MBE. I started with ME on my car, but recently switched to MBE. |
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Post by Zed. on Dec 27, 2019 13:12:52 GMT
Car electronics are a pain in the rear canoe. I'd seriously consider going for carbs on my next / dream future car project. Screw mpg. DIFFERENT potential failure hassle is appealing. EDITED  after years of carbs, Weber & Dellorto especially, theres different problems with mecanical & electronics  I read somewhere that they and ME had a very big falling out, which is why they switched to their own ECU... They did indeed. Rocketeer now use MBE. I started with ME on my car, but recently switched to MBE. I was interested in an ME221 ecu lastyear, after reserch & discussions with a mate (local & tame rolling-road owner) I am probably going to use one of my 'older' MBE's (think I've a 'spare' 967i in the shed) as standalone - not so much against the ME product but for my intended use  although I'm seriuosly interested in trying a Speedurino (DIY-EFI CORE4) as can write code for thay easily  Rich. |
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Post by fellows on Dec 27, 2019 13:47:20 GMT
If and when I get my car up and running properly, I'll probably put a thread up about the rocketeer conversion but I won't clog up this very excellent thread with my stuff.
I would add though that personally I didn't love ME (though I know some do).
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Post by V6 on Dec 27, 2019 16:41:47 GMT
If and when I get my car up and running properly, I'll probably put a thread up about the rocketeer conversion but I won't clog up this very excellent thread with my stuff. I would add though that personally I didn't love ME (though I know some do).
Welcome  Good too see more engine swaps coming.
Sometimes when we have been mid way through an issue / modification / down tools moment... I've often wished I had some proven UK backup over here. Although my installation guys have been great, we did have to overcome a few obstacles. At least you have Rocketeer here to assist.
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Post by V6 on Dec 27, 2019 16:43:50 GMT
Zed, I get you... "different problems".
Although at least I could learn how to clean a carb and get the needles and floats set up. It's screwdrivers and spanners. Not electronic wizardry and grand bills for boxes of magic (well beyone me).
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Post by jon on Dec 27, 2019 19:21:05 GMT
Zed, I get you... "different problems". Although at least I could learn how to clean a carb and get the needles and floats set up. It's screwdrivers and spanners. Not electronic wizardry and grand bills for boxes of magic (well beyone me). Different problems like the carb gumming up at the most inopportune moment - usually when it's sub zero outside and you need to go somewhere. The memories I have of stripping and cleaning them aren't particularly fond. Playing with jets / tubes / etc on a big webber on a v6 converted defender was a bit more fun though |
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Post by V6 on Dec 27, 2019 21:36:50 GMT
My idea would be for a summer toy so the cold wouldn't be an issue. I think that is the only other direction which appeals to me... Something truly daft, tiny and impractical for those summer driving moments. Then a disposable thing as a daily. This current car is more of an ideal all rounder. Should be a lot of fun and will be great for quite some time yet. So the above are more like day dreams at the moment |
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Post by niklas on Dec 28, 2019 6:32:45 GMT
Carbs are cool on classic machinery. But on a modern build? Leaving power, mpg and reliability to have ... Intake sound? Nah, carbs are old hat. With a good standalone, you go to the dyno once, tuning it finding mbt everywhere, set up hot and cold start. Put in a little ego correction and leave it for eternity if you like. Badly designed or soldered standalones is what gets you fuming, so buy a good one |
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Good too see more engine swaps coming. 
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