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Post by AndyMk2 on Sept 23, 2016 16:10:27 GMT
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Post by johnners on Sept 23, 2016 21:40:48 GMT
Think the ASA might not allow that now!
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Post by wigwambam on Sept 23, 2016 22:46:44 GMT
I am drunkenly stuffing £2720 into my router, why is nothing happening? After the weeks of car shopping with the missus looking at various surprisingly rusty underneaths of certain 5 year old cars I need that thing so badly.
Somebody ought to make a documentary about the fabled man who spent his entire professional career stroking Mazdas with his hands.
Tempted to email this ad to Toyota who rather disappointingly appear to have decided that the solution to their longevity problem, which meant people like me are still driving cars they built in the 90s, is less vigorous attention to undercoating.
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Post by Meerkat on Sept 26, 2016 15:28:23 GMT
In south africa you still see quite a few of those old 323s on the roads, they were definitely built better than the newer stuff. Obviously lack of salted roads has a lot to do with it though
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Post by wannabe on Sept 26, 2016 16:26:30 GMT
A number of things annoy me about the current situation regarding older cars and longevity of build quality. - Older stuff seemed built to last, yet we're being told and encouraged to scrap them at every opportunity because, you know, digging several more tons of metal ore and oil out of the ground and using X amount of energy to make a whole new car out of it must be wayyyyy lower environmental impact than just putting fuel and a touch of oil in an older car for another 10 years... How many great (or even average but long-lasting) cars were scrapped in the name of propping up the car industry in recent years? Perfectly good cars that had years of life left of them? It is not good for my blood pressure to think about it. - We were encouraged to buy new diesel cars because they apparently produced less CO2 (plant food, remember) and now, d'uh, c.50% of the UK car fleet (up from around 15% IIRC) is diesel and pumping out carcinogenic particulate pollutants, so what's the solution? Well, IIRC, Boris proposed a scrappage scheme for diesel cars over a year old. A YEAR OLD. wtf?? Why bother spending time, money and resources improving the quality and lifespan of vehicle bodyshells if they must be scrapped almost immediately? Retards. - Toyota reducing the quality of their bodyshell protection in order to increase vehicle expiration and their turnover/profits, rather than building a quality product that lasts, is just another example of the backwards idiocy of the world we live in, where built-in obscelence and constant consumerism to buy the latest thing (as a much greater man than me once pointed out) is exactly what Big Business and Governments want, in order to keep the profits and taxes rolling in. We've all seen it with white goods, clothes, shoes, etc etc, and it is frankly stupid. [/rant]
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Post by wannabe on Sept 26, 2016 16:32:32 GMT
In south africa you still see quite a few of those old 323s on the roads, they were definitely built better than the newer stuff. Obviously lack of salted roads has a lot to do with it though Over in Turkey I've seen Renault 12s still going strong! They've got some cool old stuff over there, I've often thought it would be ace to buy something, service it and then drive it all the way home lol
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Post by AndyMk2 on Sept 26, 2016 17:05:50 GMT
It is interesting to see how marketing has shifted from longevity to what's now fashionable for 10 minutes.
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Post by Meerkat on Sept 27, 2016 9:32:45 GMT
Over in Turkey I've seen Renault 12s still going strong! They've got some cool old stuff over there, I've often thought it would be ace to buy something, service it and then drive it all the way home lol I've often wondered about buying an old "project" car out in South Africa and then shipping it home. It wouldn't make much economic sense but it would be a lot of fun. There are plenty of old cars out there that have survived much better than their rusty British counterparts.
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