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Post by madbean on Nov 10, 2016 17:49:40 GMT
I'm thinking this never a good thing lol
Well my thinking lower looks cooler, speed humps at work may not like that. So I think I'll be limited by them, I may only get away lower my car by an inch. So with that in mind I like the price of GAZ Gold shocks from MXparts, not got the money but the price is ok lol. My thoughts go soft or mid spring really not sure, someone went for softer option on here I will ask how they got on with them.
My MX5 the mk2.5 sport or SVT on the log book, sorry someone told me off for calling it a SVT it's a sport. So it got bilstein on it as standard but I guess there just a standard road shock, there a fair bit of play to go harder in my mind and keep the car ok for the road still.
But this the bigger problem with me thinking, Anti roll bars I can't get them out of my head. My biggest problem with the MX5 is the body roll, so cheap go GAZ gold with mid springs. Or would it be best going GAZ gold soft spring and go anti roll bars.
I really don't know what the anti roll bars will do, with the body roll and if there make it a harder ride. Some of you must of been down this road and done both, I am think anti roll bars first so I get to know what they done.
I just not want a brick to drive and waste money by doing it
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Post by colin on Nov 11, 2016 9:32:11 GMT
Thinking's always a good thing! I've not changed the bars on mine, but here's the theory:
With a stiffer anti-roll bar you'll get less body roll in the corners. But there are a couple of tradeoffs to the "soft spring/big bar" combo.
If you stiffen the ARB rather than the springs then the car should be better over bumps, as you still have soft spring. Which is nice. EXCEPT when only one side of the car hits a bump. The ARB links the left and right wheels, so if you hit a bump with just the left wheels and not the right then the ARB will resist that motion, so the car will still be stiffer in that case. Also the stiffer it is the more a bump on one wheel will upset the other. Not so much an issue on smooth roads or tracks but on your average B-road....
The other (probably lesser) issue is damping, coilovers should have the damping matched(ish) to the spring rate. If you stiffen the car a LOT in roll by changing the ARB then it will be a bit more underdamped (bouncy) in roll, and single-wheel bump, since the dampers haven't changed.
Obviously it depends how much stiffer you go on the ARB. I've not tried it on road cars, you might not notice the damping effect but I think the left/right coupling and stiffness over single wheel bumps would be noticeable. Would the ride be worse in general that just changing to stiffer springs? Dunno. Maybe, maybe not. Probably?
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Post by madbean on Nov 11, 2016 12:36:22 GMT
I guess one problem not knowing how much stiffer the ARB are to standard link
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Post by myothercarsa2cv on Nov 11, 2016 12:38:57 GMT
Nothing wrong with a bit of body roll. I have standard ARBs with BC shocks and the combo is good on our roads and fine for track. I think it's a good compromise. IMO you should only run fatter ARBs on a more track-focused car. No need on a road car.
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Post by madbean on Nov 11, 2016 12:58:57 GMT
So what don't spend money on ARB and use money saved to get Meisters. I just know the what if fitted ARB will do, would still be rolling around in my head
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Post by tgbshelby on Nov 11, 2016 16:28:53 GMT
Ive just fitted meisters to mine, and everything else is standard, and its made a huge difference. I think ive only clicked it up to about 8 on the front and 7 on the back, and it handles like its on rails and no harsh road issues as the dampening is great
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Post by madbean on Nov 11, 2016 17:42:15 GMT
You got it off the floor now then
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Post by tgbshelby on Nov 11, 2016 19:06:04 GMT
Only because i thought it was rubbing, turns out my arch liner had detatched, so zip tied that bad boy up and put it back on the deck. Bumps have to be avoided i cant even like go around them so it might ocme back up soon haha
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