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Post by nickd on Mar 16, 2016 21:41:17 GMT
It's because Americans know Canoe all about Europe. We had lengthy discussion all through 2014 with a large tyre manufacture who wanted to bring Motorsport tyres to Europe. After visiting corporate HQ in Asia, getting approval for all the plan we were then handed off to their Motorsport division based in America. It was like being told to talk to a 6 year old. Ultimately Motorsport for many of these companies is drifting and when they say they have a race tyre that has been tested as great, it means someone with a stupid name who wears a baseball cap backwards has drifted it and said its great. We have had tyres for testing that over a race distance, on European tarmac are slower and less predictable than their budget road tyres. So to say is is being e marked for circuit use just means that they don't have a single clue about the European market or what is needed to work over here.
As for being road legal, the smaller sizes are the hardest to meet rolling resistance requirements. A wide 15" tyre with any sort of grip aspirations is never going to make it.
The latest 888R is slower over 2 laps that the out going tyre because the rubber is less grippy to meet RR targets, it is however more consistent than the old organic rubber compound 888 which would go off after 5 minutes and so faster over a race distance.
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Post by nickd on Mar 16, 2016 21:44:26 GMT
Canoe is the swear filter by the way.
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Post by Vindi (Russell) on Mar 16, 2016 23:52:18 GMT
Thanks for that Nick, really disappointed in some ways but I guess I shouldn't be surprised, I'm in a very small minority in wanting a tyre in this size I guess. The R888s come in a 235/50 but I have a feeling it will move around more than I'd like. Bit more of a gamble as well, the 235s are double what I paid for the 225s!
Might just have to sell the pair of 10s, buy another pair of 9s and stick with the 225s. I wanted to avoid that as it will mean using spacers to get a bit closer to the arch but it's not the end of the world I guess.
Russell.
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Post by nickd on Mar 17, 2016 9:25:33 GMT
Russell, I wouldn't be overly disappointed. Remember Emilio has a vested interest in promoting a tyre that fits the rims he sells. However look at the tyre. I would suggest it has far too much tread pattern for the blocks to be stable and give to any sort of decent consistency in use.I would almost say that was a wet tyre. It will probably give great traction, but laterally, overheat quickly. I would suggest another great drift tyre and one for old Mustang type road cars.
Don't get wrapped up in ultimate theory, everything is a compromise. I have 9" 0 offset wheels if it is a problem.
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Post by Vindi (Russell) on Mar 17, 2016 18:00:30 GMT
Russell, I wouldn't be overly disappointed. Remember Emilio has a vested interest in promoting a tyre that fits the rims he sells. However look at the tyre. I would suggest it has far too much tread pattern for the blocks to be stable and give to any sort of decent consistency in use.I would almost say that was a wet tyre. It will probably give great traction, but laterally, overheat quickly. I would suggest another great drift tyre and one for old Mustang type road cars. Don't get wrapped up in ultimate theory, everything is a compromise. I have 9" 0 offset wheels if it is a problem. Cheers, as you know I spend a lot of time thinking and planning which isn't always good. What 0 offset 9s do you do? Looking at keeping the weight down as much as possible Russell |
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Post by nickd on Mar 17, 2016 20:19:14 GMT
They are Holeshot, 6.3Kg. They are darker than this in reality.    |
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Post by Vindi (Russell) on Mar 17, 2016 23:37:47 GMT
Thanks, I hadn't spotted them when I looked before ... not too heavy and even a nice colour! I'll get the basic car on the road and get the arches test fitted and do some measuring, see how much space I need to make up.
Russell.
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le sigh