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Post by V6 on Jul 3, 2019 14:38:36 GMT
Sounds familiar
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Post by Vindi (Russell) on Jul 22, 2019 23:30:37 GMT
Soooooo ... my Elise. It's a modified 1999 S1 Elise, previously cat d. It was just fibreglass damage, so the fibreglass was replaced and the car was plasti dipped Matt black to cover the mismatched panels. The spec list is super long, so I won't list it but basically everything you'd want to uprate has been uprated ... engine, box, diff, suspension, brakes etc etc! I've done a few jobs to improve it and make it a bit more useable, and have removed the plasti dip from the rear to see what the bodywork is like. I'm happy enough with it, but it still needs the front spraying to match the rear If I'm honest, I'm not sure if I'll keep it ... it's a much more focused car than the MX5 will ever be, but the reality is that I have a family, and I need any play cars to be enjoyed by them as well. I've taken them out in it, and they all said pretty much the same thing ... looks cool, but it's a bit awkward to get in & out, and it's a bit noisy. So I need to think carefully ... the S1 are a but more focused / raw than the S2, and this one has had all the sound deadening, carpets etc removed to make it lighter. That, coupled with the worked on engine, louder exhaust and louder intake add up to a car that's just sublime to drive, but a bit noisy / tiring if you just want to go to the pub. Which is where the MX5 really comes into it's own! It's probably a good thing that I'm off on holiday for a bit as it will buy me some thinking time ... although if anyone wants a mechanically incredible, but externally tatty S1 Elise for under £10k, let me know!! The green Mk1 is progressing slowly ... it is gradually gaining a turbo 1.8 Mk2 RS engine and 6 speed setup that's mapped to around 250bhp. I managed to find a Mazdaspeed LSD as well, it's a 4.1 drive so that should be interesting as the setup was running a 3.9 before. It's actually a Mk1 1.6 diff case, but I'm thinking / hoping that won't matter as long as the prop and driveshafts are the right type to match Russell
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Post by wannabe on Jul 23, 2019 10:13:28 GMT
I quite like cars that have had a hard life but then been used as a basis to work up an awesome drivers' car - it means you aren't afraid to actually use it, and use it hard! That's kind of the philosophy with mine - looks like a shed but everything underneath has been done, and if I ever get it back together (life gets in the way!) it should be great to actually drive Could you not look at exhaust options? Perhaps add another box to quieten it down? That's probably the main source of noise, I would have thought.
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Post by Zed. on Jul 23, 2019 10:52:54 GMT
I managed to find a Mazdaspeed LSD as well, it's a 4.1 drive so that should be interesting as the setup was running a 3.9 before. It's actually a Mk1 1.6 diff case, ^^ useless without photo's is it the '6"' diff Rich.
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Post by Vindi (Russell) on Jul 23, 2019 11:06:11 GMT
I managed to find a Mazdaspeed LSD as well, it's a 4.1 drive so that should be interesting as the setup was running a 3.9 before. It's actually a Mk1 1.6 diff case, ^^ useless without photo's is it the '6"' diff Rich. Not sure how pics would help. It's the Mk1 1.6 case, smaller one of the 2. Lighter by a few kg as well Russell
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Post by Zed. on Jul 23, 2019 11:53:04 GMT
^^ useless without photo's is it the '6"' diff Rich. Not sure how pics would help. It's the Mk1 1.6 case, smaller one of the 2. Lighter by a few kg as well Russell was hoping for photos of the actual diff (removed from the aluminium case ) if its a plate diff in the smaller case then it's probabbly a Mazda motorsports diff, similar to the earlier Rx7 item I believe would've thought it would be worth a treating it to a rebuild if youre intending to stick it behind a 250hp turbo motor Rich.
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Post by Vindi (Russell) on Aug 8, 2019 21:41:17 GMT
On holiday for a couple of weeks ... always good to have time to think. Well, usually ... for me, I've just dreamt up 2 or 3 more daft ideas of what I might do to my green 5 when I get back.
On the road with a normal ish engine & box
Chuck in the Mk2 turbo setup
Go straight for a V6 / V8 swap
I honestly have no idea ... first thing is to finish & sell the Elise though, and see if I've reached any conclusions once that's done!
Russell
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Post by V6 on Aug 9, 2019 7:44:57 GMT
How about an LS V8 swap. Cut the firewall out and move the weight back more to get some balance back. Ditch the dashboard totally. Just have the dials above the dash crossmember. Bare inside. Do a racecar vibe like a 60s cobra. Seeing as you have a bare shell it's not that insane. Would be far better than an anvil out front.
Or go hyperlight. All carbon body panels. Put a Hyabusa turbo in there. 350bhp, weight of some tupperware.
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Post by Zed. on Aug 9, 2019 12:15:47 GMT
Or go hyperlight. All carbon body panels. Put a Hyabusa turbo in there. 350bhp, weight of some tupperware. and constant (& expensive!) Clutch replacements? there used to be a peugeot 205 rallying that was called the '205abusa' (imaginatively) and when the clutch lasted it was fast with good results, I say when though as it didn't finish all the time before the msa (motor-sports-assasin's) banned bike engined cars for rallying there were a few around, a Darrian with a Hayabusa engine is a formidable opponent (I used to navigate in a 1300 crossflow engine'd mk2 escort so observed the stage-time diferences, hills didn't worry the Darrian but the escort suffered ) www.facebook.com/Mazda-Miatabusa-1609388789292376/?ref=br_rs and www.miatabusa.com/?fbclid=IwAR3sJHO-T3ZcTsiHd96iVP6vLUWbzSVxeG8zTDGeItDxoUsdwKe6INvERL0 for inspiration maybe? Rich.
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Post by V6 on Aug 9, 2019 13:18:17 GMT
It seems whatever you go for there will be downsides of one sort or a other. I guess smaller with high power means more stress.
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Post by Vindi (Russell) on Aug 10, 2019 11:08:39 GMT
How about an LS V8 swap. Cut the firewall out and move the weight back more to get some balance back. Ditch the dashboard totally. Just have the dials above the dash crossmember. Bare inside. Do a racecar vibe like a 60s cobra. Seeing as you have a bare shell it's not that insane. Would be far better than an anvil out front. Or go hyperlight. All carbon body panels. Put a Hyabusa turbo in there. 350bhp, weight of some tupperware. I have to admit, that could be a possibility. The costs for the LFX swap will be high, so an LS actually would be a bit cheaper ... the car has a full cage and is 100% stripped (not even a wiring loom), so moving the firewall back a bit and losing the dash wouldn't be much work. I'd love to combine that with more weight saving to keep it relatively light ... don't really fancy the bike engine route as I know they tend to be heavy on clutches, and I'd like whatever I end up with to be relatively undressed so I can just get on and use it once it's done Russell
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Post by V6 on Aug 10, 2019 11:13:03 GMT
If you did all the above it could be one of the best fives around. Would be a big mission but think of the result.
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Post by jon on Aug 10, 2019 14:12:08 GMT
I was idly thinking about engine swap options the other day - but maybe something a bit more readily available in the UK like the volvo 5cyl (as used in the Focus RS) - similar-ish dimensions to the BP, massive power potential, good aftermarket support and a monster torque curve which is pretty much flat from 1800RPM onwards...
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Post by Vindi (Russell) on Aug 10, 2019 22:08:12 GMT
If you did all the above it could be one of the best fives around. Would be a big mission but think of the result. That's kind of the way I'm thinking. I've had a bunch of nice 5s, but would like to do something that's a real step up. Whether I've got the money to finish it off is a big question, but the basics of the car is already there ... solid early Mk1 with a full weld in cage, dropped floors and Ohlins suspension on Mk2 running gear. Would almost seem a shame not to do something with that! I was idly thinking about engine swap options the other day - but maybe something a bit more readily available in the UK like the volvo 5cyl (as used in the Focus RS) - similar-ish dimensions to the BP, massive power potential, good aftermarket support and a monster torque curve which is pretty much flat from 1800RPM onwards... I know it makes sense, but I think I'd prefer an NA setup to a turbo one ... saying that, it would be interesting ... not sure it's been done? Russell
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Post by V6 on Aug 11, 2019 6:35:32 GMT
Yes there are multiple Saab turbo from before I started my mission. Total weapons. Although as you say won't sound like a V8.
My end goal will also be with a V8. Just not in a five.
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