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Post by chris71 on Jun 22, 2019 16:31:02 GMT
As per title really. The long bolt on the lower rear wishbone is not wanting to come free. Was given a good soak in release oil and have tried to get going with breaking bar, which broke, had socket on nut and gave some motivation with a lump hammer and have even applied a lot of heat in a attempt to free, but still no joy. Any thing else I can do ? Many thanks Chris
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Post by Crumpets on Jun 22, 2019 18:14:57 GMT
I had to cut mine out in the end! - the usual go-to is to soak it in penetrating fluid every day for a while before removal. If you want to try again with another Breaker bar and an extra set of hands just drop me a line buddy.
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Post by chris71 on Jun 22, 2019 19:42:13 GMT
Have a refurbished set of lower rear arms at hand, so cutting is an option, just would worry about damaging the hub !
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Post by schercheeroo on Jun 22, 2019 21:43:59 GMT
I've recently refurbed my wishbones and had some issues with the same bolt. I found that with the nut removed the bolt was tight but would spin, however it would not come free. The bolt fits through two bushes and the lower hub. But the shank of the bolt is exposed and had become corroded. I covered the shank with some WD40 and using a ratchet and socket kept spinning it while trying to pull it at the same time. Hard to explain but if you angle the socket you can spin and pull at the same time. Every time the bolt retracted a bit I tapped it back home with a hammer, wiped the shank clean and applied some more WD40. Rinse and repeat. Came out eventually.
Before refitting I chucked the bolt up in a cordless drill and spun it while holding some emery cloth against the shank to clean it up.
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Post by Zed. on Jun 23, 2019 22:19:22 GMT
Dinamite is sometimes the only way to shift them I've had a few that have been persuaded to turn with a 24" breaker-bar & plusgas but the corrosion caused problems drawing the bolt through the hub I've got a pair of rear lower wishbones stuck solid to their hubs (from a 1990 car) & will be trying emery tape to polish the bolt's shaft (between the hub's 'ears') then dinamite (hammer & heat) while trying to turn the bolt & hopefully..... also, iirc, the bolts can bend through use & accident damage? Rich.
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Post by chris71 on Jun 24, 2019 19:46:58 GMT
New breaker bar ordered, 600mm, last one was 450mm which should give more leverage, this should hopefully be here by Wednesday ! Also going to use the true craftsman's approach of hitting the socket, nut and bolt a lot HARDER and after applying more heat !!!!! Oh and still applying release fluid in the mean time. I will not be beaten by a rusted bolt, I hope !!
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Post by Zed. on Jun 24, 2019 22:23:42 GMT
got a pair of them to do BUT have to fight them as they are not on a car (snapped my bench vice earlier!) pots of plusgas.... Rich.
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Post by Whistler on Jun 25, 2019 8:20:30 GMT
For this job you will need the following ingredients: 1 x 24" breaker bar 1 x Jack handle to extend the breaker bar 1 x Large single hex socket 5 x Cans of penetrating fluid 1 x Blowtorch/oxyacetelene torch 1 x Month 1 x Shot-tin of luck 1 x Baseball bat (not required for the job itself, but will help you blow off steam when you repeatedly fail).
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Post by Crumpets on Jun 25, 2019 8:44:56 GMT
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Post by chris71 on Jun 25, 2019 18:34:46 GMT
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Post by martiny on Jun 26, 2019 14:54:20 GMT
I think the bigger breaker bar should see you right.
Having done this on a couple of cars now, I found that patience, PlusGas and a big bar all helped. Once you can actually turn the bolt, even a little, it's going to lose the fight eventually. You just need to be more patient and determined than it is.
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Post by Zed. on Jun 26, 2019 15:12:00 GMT
it's going to lose the fight eventually. You just need to be more patient and determined than it is. *ping noise* (followed by quietly mutterings similar to...) BUGGERIT Rich.
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Post by lowender on Jun 26, 2019 17:23:49 GMT
I think the bigger breaker bar should see you right. Having done this on a couple of cars now, I found that patience, PlusGas and a big bar all helped. Once you can actually turn the bolt, even a little, it's going to lose the fight eventually. You just need to be more patient and determined than it is. Yep, it's a martial art.
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Post by chris71 on Jun 26, 2019 18:38:05 GMT
I think the bigger breaker bar should see you right. Having done this on a couple of cars now, I found that patience, PlusGas and a big bar all helped. Once you can actually turn the bolt, even a little, it's going to lose the fight eventually. You just need to be more patient and determined than it is. Have heard a couple of references to PlusGas now. Have tried the usual penetrating fluids but not this one. I presume that it a more focused releasing and penetrating fluid then WD-40 and alike ?
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Post by Zed. on Jun 26, 2019 18:51:19 GMT
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