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Post by batou on Nov 12, 2022 20:40:17 GMT
so, is there a 323 camcover somewhere in the future? Rich. Seems to be the standard approach so possibly, budget is in a lot of places right now and theres none for sale. If I go toda cam wheels etc then probably
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Post by Zed. on Nov 12, 2022 21:26:46 GMT
so, is there a 323 camcover somewhere in the future? Rich. Seems to be the standard approach so possibly, budget is in a lot of places right now and theres none for sale. If I go toda cam wheels etc then probably *Might* know of one...... Rich
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Post by batou on Nov 14, 2022 19:54:44 GMT
Some more parts have arrivied for the "budget" build... ENGINE & DRIVETRAIN# Link G4X Plug In ECU # Denso EV6 (1.8 VVTi) Injectors I sent the ME442 back before it was fitted, I played with both peices of software and I learned a few things. I understood more of what I was doing in the Link software, the help was better and the layout "made more sense", given I'll be spending the time to learn to tune the car over time having software that I enjoy using and learned from is important. It was quite quick to build up a base map with what I needed, and compare the settings with those from other map files from either your own, links resources or other users, super useful. Lifetime guarantee included with the Link which is nice and also, a huge public forum of users supported by the company and thier engineers / tech's. Fantastic, learnt a lot reading on there. The MEITE however crashed out more times than I care to remember and wouldn't even load half the maps I tried (strike 1), no inbuild comparison tool to see what you have changed (you can use a software dev tool like beyondcompare to what I think are xml files I suppose but mess) and although parts of the software were intuative I found it clunky to navigate and follow (strike 2). Sure, more time with the software might make the difference but I really didn't get on with it and found it frustrating to use (even more so if it crashes out part way through changing a map!). The other thing that I found an issue was I swear they had a forum for ME users that was public on their site, nope gone... so no community help endorsed by company themselves, to me that is part and parcel of a product like that so that is... Strike 3! Out. The Link is not entirely plug and play from the box on an early NA6 so its not all plain sailing, but some basic wiring is really all that I need to undertake, also, there isn't a huge number of users running the Link platform on the B6 at the moment when compared to the ME221/441. That said, from the ones that have spoken to they are either really happy with it, or really happy and quick to tell you why they binned their ME221 . Also picked up some VVT injectors which I have brand new OE seals for so I'll take them to get cleaned, tested and fitted up with new seals before fitting, they should be more than I'll need as I don't think I'll go beyond 264/9.0 cams further down the line... . Anyway, plan is to take my time over the winter and learn more as I go. I have a lot to do on the car as a whole anyway so I can dip in and out and let new information/skills develop during that time. boggissimo pic from different angle to soothe ocd... AE101 Silvertop's & Link G4X by batousan 2, on Flickr INTERIOR & AUDIO# AEM X-Series UEGO AFR Gauge & Wideband Sensor Okay so yes the expense of a wideband gauge controller and sensor is annoying but given I'll be doing a bit of tuner DIY I'll need one, I wouldn't be driving along glancing at a laptop anyway and I suppose its cheaper to replace a gauge than an ecu if the wideband controller dies. SUSPENSION & CHASSIS# Destroyordie Adjustable FCAs (Upper & Lower) # IL Motorsport Hardened Rubber Bushings# R-Package Lower Tie Rod Ends# OEM Mazda Lower Ball joints# Maruha Complete front suspension bolt kit (mar18080800)# New front hub assemblyNA6CE vs Destroyordie Fronts by batousan 2, on Flickr Okay so the front end is complete, relatively painless other than the rust prevention mentioned in the last post. Both sides are on and I've of course not had it aligned yet. The car drives straight with the wheel centred so I have my settings equal either side but I don't have anything to set caster so the steering is super wandering around at the moment (only driven round at slow speed) so probably also got a bunch of toe out which doesn't help. Once I've done the rears I'll get the car fully aligned at a place like WIM. I'll report more on the bushings and handling changes when I'm at this stage, if I was to review now I would say the car handles like a new puppy on its first walk out of the house . Also fitted new R-package track rods, the car came with them from factory but I buggered one side on removal so decided to replace both and keep the one I didn't ruin as a spare. Anti seized (even though the Maruha bolt kit is treated) pretty much everything apart from the brake discs as I don't want to be dicking around snapping seized bolts or setting fire to pb blaster like I did during removal. I'm sure ends these do help bumpsteer as I haven't really had issues of that nature so better not change it. I buzzed back chassis, treated, sealed and re-painted while everything was removed. Clean metal > dynax seam sealer > buzzweld rust encapsulating primer > corroless glass flake chassis-in-one and bilt hamber dynax UC.. Built everything back up and fitted brand new hubs. Cheeky manifold shot ^. So yeah the car looks a bit stancey at the moment but I'll sort that when I get it alignned, think I need to raise the fronts. I think the previous place but some weird settings on the front so I levelled out the dampers to match either side and I feel its a good 10mm lower and I might have a touch too much camber now I've got it on the ground and properly looked at it... NA6CE Too Much Camber by batousan 2, on Flickr So now onto the rear, I'm going to drop the whole rear subframe and diff if I can do it in one go. I'll send that off to be blasted and painted as I've had enough of brushes and rollers for one year. NA6CE vs Destroyordie Fronts by batousan 2, on Flickr
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Post by batou on Nov 14, 2022 19:58:40 GMT
Seems to be the standard approach so possibly, budget is in a lot of places right now and theres none for sale. If I go toda cam wheels etc then probably *Might* know of one...... Rich This "budget build" is getting expensive
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Post by Zed. on Nov 14, 2022 20:41:56 GMT
*Might* know of one...... Rich This "budget build" is getting expensive they all do when your diff(s) cost what mine did then maybe you need help Rich.
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Post by batou on Nov 14, 2022 20:56:08 GMT
This "budget build" is getting expensive they all do when your diff(s) cost what mine did then maybe you need help Rich. I'm dreading dropping the diff with the rear sub and getting the "whilst its off the car" jitters
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Post by Zed. on Nov 14, 2022 22:40:03 GMT
they all do when your diff(s) cost what mine did then maybe you need help Rich. I'm dreading dropping the diff with the rear sub and getting the "whilst its off the car" jitters I've not got that far yet Rich.
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Post by scottydugg on Nov 15, 2022 6:55:40 GMT
Will you drop the fuel tank as well? I mean you're in there already....
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Post by batou on Nov 17, 2022 11:29:52 GMT
Picked up a filter system for the ITBs, clears the 70mm stacks nicely but we'll see how it fits once in the car. It was bought off a nice chap who had it running on a similar setup (RHD too) so should have no issues with clearances. Also re-instated my timing marks by rotating the engine to TDC, the nick was so small it was so hard to tell, but it was there. Ran the car upto temperature and adjusted the timing back to 10 deg BTDC before I started pulling it apart. I've dropped the coolant as I don't want it pouring out of the port behind the inlet manifold when I remove it (new shiny alu rad on the way too) and I have a weep at my heater hoses which needs doing anyway. After that I stripped back some of the wiring and seperated the stuff from the loom that I wont be re-using and labelled everything up. After that it whrottle body and air valve off off, unplugged and labelled up all plugs, fuel rail out, top inlet manifold bolts out before I realised it was 22:45 and should probably have a sleep before swearing at the lower bolts. Progress is progress, no turning back now. Will you drop the fuel tank as well? I mean you're in there already.... I can't think of any reason to drop the tank unless I had an issue/leak, if there is a reason I'm not sure I want to know it because no I hadn't planned on dropping the fuel tank
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Post by batou on Nov 18, 2022 22:55:32 GMT
Cheeky mockup and clearance check.... 4AGE 4-Throttle ユーノス ロードスタ S-SPECIAL NA6CE by batousan 2, on Flickr Loads of stuff to do, been building up the wiring needed for the Toyota TPS, IAT and AEM Wideband and working on a base map. I've labelled up stuff in the bay in terms of wiring but I of course forgot to mark which hardline is the fuel feed, ar-s-e. I'm sure I'll find out when I turn on the fuel pump tho.
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Post by batou on Nov 26, 2022 22:22:52 GMT
Been tidying up the bay and working on a few small jobs but had some time today to drop the rear diff (subframe next). Lots of very tight bolts, the ppf collar at the back was an absolute twat. After beating the crap out of it for about 30-40 mins I started to wonder if it was actually welded on, eventually my perserverance paid off and diff is off... Rear End Refurb - ユーノス ロードスタ S-SPECIAL NA6CE by batousan 2, on Flickr Probably should split the case just to have a quick looky on what diff is actually in there, not that I have the spare cash to change it right now if its not what I'm hoping to see. VVT injectors going off for a clean next week, wiring expansion loom for the ecu is done but not recovered the heatshrink down just yet until I've tested it all works, exhaust mani is off and old sensor out so will swap that over to the bosch lsu 4.9. If I get fed up with the subframe tomorrow I might test the throttle cable fitment (I might need a 1.8VVT cable if these too much slack) and plug in the ecu to calibrate it. Need more time to faff with this car, small hours over the weekend is not enough. Also picked up a new cabinet for the garage in the sales, local halfords offered a massive extra discount on the already "black friday'd" pro 6 drawer so I caved, sick of working out of a portable 2 drawer and tools everywhere. New Cab by batousan 2, on Flickr
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Post by batou on Dec 1, 2022 17:04:51 GMT
So following up on the weekends shenanigans, few steps forward and some mistakes here and there but all fixable. I did drop the subframe, not as bad as anticpated apart from some of the lower bolts on the lower arms to hub carrier. I ended up adopting a deadlift position on the passenger side and it started to lift the rear of the car before it started popcorning its way loose. Flipping eck'. NA6CE Subframe Drop by batousan 2, on Flickr After that it was just removing bolts and careful manvouvering to get the thing on the ground, rattled gunned everything off the frame and then had a go at removing some of the wishbone bushes with a threaded bar, I got two out before I decided I'll end up probably bending the arms with the force needed to get them out. Time for something a little different... Kill It with Fire by batousan 2, on Flickr Looks fairly drastic but only a few really stubborn ones caught like that, best to try an keep it as self contained as possible by heating the metal and not setting fire to the edges, eventually they start to bubble a bit and then just pop them out with hammer and the socket extension I broke removing the diff. At least thats done with now. I honestly don't think I'll split the diff at this point, seems daft given its off the car but I know a quick enough way to get it off and everything will be anti-seized next time round. Plus it works and isn't leaking, changing the seals in my limited amount of time is another possible problem and I'd rather spend the time on stopping the gearbox weeping instead. I have taken a lot on with this and the ITB build and really pushed for my time with my day job (xmas can fucc off tho). I have three days hol left to use so might leverage some of that if work calms down (it won't). On the ITB front I've mostly been working on wiring and testing some of that, all my power for the AEM AF/R works fine, I haven't put the ex-manifold back on with the new sensor to test that yet but I have checked the TPS is all good. I decided not to use the OE TPS harness and pin the toyota one as a completely seperate section wired to the ECU expansion, I might have been fine using the OE one and just using the signal and 5v but I'd like to be sure its completely free of noise and not attached to 30 year old wiring given its what will be driving the majority of the tuning process (Alpha-N, IAT and map signal only for baro correction). I was pleased with my wiring job and how I'd holed the ECU with glands until I went to put it back in and realised it was not the right way so I've since sorted that, also wired my TPS connector pins wrong (the TPS is in different orientation than others). I thought I double/triple checked that but its hard to tell when you are not sleeping for more than 4 hours a night , still unpinning the toyota connector was painless unlike the superseals I made which thankfully I don't need to touch. So the final test was to see if my crimping job was any good. NA6CE Link G4X Ecu by batousan 2, on Flickr I know some people have had issues with throttle cable adjustment with 4AGE throttles so initially calibrated the TPS in the Link software with the ITB assembly off the car so it would record full throw, thankfully it did so my wiring worked, really nice clean signal and the sweep looks perfect. I then refitted the ITBs to the car to compare how much throttle sweep I get through the pedal box, I've got the cable stopper on the 4th throttle body right at the back and on the pedal I'd either get 11-20% open at "closed" throttle and 100% at fully open or if adjusted max the other way would get me 3.4% and 93%. No bueno. To correct this I then simply removed the rubber stopper at the back of the pedal assembly in the car that affects the closed position, and then backed out the stopper bolt to allow WOT, hooked the laptop back up to check the TPS reading and it seemed to do the trick and has a really nice smooth travel through the full range. Throttle is supper snappy and not slack. Sorry no braps noises yet, all in good time. Just waiting on a few parts now, sending my VVT injectors off for a clean and test tomorrow so hopefully once I get the rad all I need to do is put some coolant in it and get cracking with not blowing it up
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Post by batou on Jan 30, 2023 12:59:02 GMT
ENGINE & DRIVETRAIN
# Toyota Billet 4A-GE 20V "Silvertop" ITBs # Hummelink Billet ITB adapter manifold with 1/8npt vacuum ports# 6x 1/8NPT Port Vacuum Block/Manifold + 3/8NPT for Brake Booster# Link G4X Plug In ECU # Denso EV6 (1.8 VVTi) Injectors # ITG JC40 Sausage Filter & Backplate# SFS Performance Silicone Rad Hoses
Okay, been meaning to update this. I've posted a bit here and there on youtube but good to keep a solid record on here and of course accept some ideas/input from people who have gone a similar route or help others rather than it getting buried in some FB post. I started the install back in November in between a busy work schedule and I’ve taken my time to make sure everything is as perfect as it can be before I fire up to minimise any issues. I’ve spent endless hours of research, learning how to create the wiring needed, planning out the engine bay routing etc and first start strategy in that time. I ordered a Koyorad back in the Black Friday sales but its coming by boat from Japan I think (arrives this week) so I decided to install the old (still functional rad) Sunday before last so I could at least make start on the dialling in process for the ITBs and adjusting the map I’ve worked on for the Link ECU as I expected to have some hiccups on the first start that I’d need to resolve. Everything bar the new rad is in and really happy with the overall look, I took some comments on board from earlier and took a bit extra time to working on the overall finish, so did a bit of polishing up and painting here and there, also had my OE alternator fully refurbished and bead blasted back to brand new finish too. Whilst there was nothing wrong with it electrical issues down the line will hopefully be minimised as a result of some preventative care. I've also stripped back the OE wiring harness completely, re-pinned the front coolant sensor and oil pressure sensor and used Raychem DR25 heat shrink for anything that goes near the engine, everything else has been re-taped in engine bay grade tesa harness tape and re-routed for the cleanest look without doing a full wire tuck. 4AGE 4-Throttle ユーノス ロードスタ S-SPECIAL NA6CE by batousan 2, on Flickr The install itself was really quite straight forward in reflection, just fiddly, I just spent the time to make sure all mating surfaces were perfectly flat, clean and blemish free. I spent a lot of time removing the old material and some extremely fine sanding to get rid of any marring from that process. I then used some gentle persuasion in the form of heat, penetrant fluid and back and fort of inlet mani studs… thank fk they came out without issue. To fit up the manifold I use the lightest smearing of hondabond (not RTV!) on the mating surface and around the coolant port that gets covered for extra sercurity/peace of mind, I literally squeeze the bonding compound until its flat with the end of the tube and press the end of the tube flat against the surface, move it around where I want it (I would not recommend squeezinge it outside of the tube and smearing around to apply it like you would on a diff casing) and then the same on the ITB manifold so theres something both sides of the OE manifold gasket. I don’t plan to run open stacks so I have an ITG JC40 Sausage Filter as I mentioned a few posts ago but didn’t want to ruin it on the first start or set it on fire so took it off for now. I’ve done all of the install DIY including the wiring and the map is created from the Link G4X basemaps, help from friends who are also installing Links on their Roadsters (muchas gracias to Alex and Haris) and endless hours of reading books, articles and watching videos on EFI tuning (So much to take in, I have massive amounts to learn and I’m super excited about that). The wiring I’ve done is TPS to Link ECU via Expansion connector (kit came with connector/pins but I did all of the wiring and used Raychem DR25 shrink throughout) and the same for the Bosch LSU4.9 Lambda sensor, then the IAT sensor is wired to the AFM, for fuel pump control I’ve just jumped it for now in the diagbox, I have got a seperate wire coming from the AFM that will go into the firewall to ECU but I need to order in some pins to connect an Aux from the ECU but not sure what those pins are at the moment. It works for now but not ideal to have the fuel pump running constantly with the ignition key position on a road car. NA6CE Link G4X Ecu by batousan 2, on Flickr Speaking of fuel, I opted to fit a set of 1.8 VVT 265cc injectors instead of the usual RX8’s mostly due to cost and avoid the risk of buying fakes, they are absolutely fine for this application, not much more flow than stock but a better spray pattern than the early NA ones. Had them cleaned, serviced with pintles replaced and all new OEM seals, here they are mated upto the OE fuel rail. I don’t expect this high temp paint to last on here but I thought I’d try and make them look nice. I had to slightly interference the fittings for the fuel lines so they didn’t catch on the throttles during operation, no big deal just need to be careful not to oval them, I also replaced the rubber lines with some gates fuel hoses that were E10 safe, not that I’ll use E10 if I can help it. With everything fitted up and wired I started with flashing the ECU with the map I’d worked on and made sure the wiring was all working as expected, thankfully there were no problems there (I can’t really test Lamda reading until it started up). I’ve noticed on youtube people don't really post a real first start (there are some but not many) and you can usually see a car is up to temp and idling nice already, I didn't think there would be any way it would just fire up and idle smooth from cold on an unknown map unless your some serious pro tuna or have previously had it running. That and the fact that damn, there are usually so many issues with ITB setups, it sometimes just doesn't work, it takes time, and its well, erm, tense (I bought a fire extinguisher that morning lol). However, I decided to leave the camera rolling after I’d been cranking it with no injection to check timing "just in case" so I turned the injectors on and after about 3-4 cranks ,and some adjustment to pre-crank prime enrichment, wow, I wasn't expecting that... I had to hold the throttle open a tiny amount to keep it running at around 1500rpm and it was rich as balls (showing 10.5. afr) to be fair the outside temperature was -1 in and about 3c in the Garage so getting fuel to atomise on a cold car is bad enough and there was nothing on the walls so its not a surprise it took a few cranks, I probably didn't need to add more enrichment or fuel to the map so a bit of patience there would have been better. My strategy was just hold on some light throttle and move the fuel tables/warmup about to keep it running and get it safely up-to temp before making any major adjustments to the fuel map to get it to idle without assistance (still needed to sync the throttles at this point). I re-checked the base timing now I could get a better reading on the gun and it needed -6 degrees of offset to get it to 10 BTDC, obviously this was going to make the idle a bit more difficult but the base point needs to be set. I was of course checking everywhere for leaks or noises the whole time and there was an unsettling lack of issues, I kept thinking I’d not seen something but no, it was fine not a single problem at this stage. I’d had the entire harness from the fuse box to the engine and everything else separated, re-pinned a few old work connectors so I was sort of expecting maybe some gremlins but no, wow. After it was up to operating temp and I’d got the air out and topped up the rad (I’ve dropped and replaced the coolant and all new hoses remember) and I got the fan to come on (already checked the output from ecu was working but nice to see it working automatically) and some further work on the mapping I couldn’t get it to idle higher than 750rpm ish so I re-checked base timing with some throttle on and set the 500 and 800rpm rows on the ignition map to 15 degrees BTDC to help the idle up so it would remain steady, I was initially confused why the idle speed was so low and the Link has idle ignition control so it was wanting to add more ignition advance to get it to my 950rpm target. So turned it off and after asking around a few mates I facepalmed realising I haven’t checked the sync on the throttles yet I pulled the stacks and backing plate off and adjusted the sync and idle speed on the throttles until it sat at a reasonable rpm target. STe Carb/ITB Syncrometer by batousan 2, on Flickr I got it to sit and idle nicely at 950rpm showing 14.63 AFR after my warm up enrichment had finished, dialled in the fuel table guesstimates a bit more to allow me to at least give it some blips and see how it revs. After turning the car off and re-checking for leaks or problems now it had hit normal temps I called it a day, came back a few times just to make sure it wasn’t on fire though lol. I made some changes to the map after I’d gone through the logs and decided what I wanted to do next, hadn’t set the idle speed mechanically to account for electrical loading as I just wanted it to run for a bit before. So I flashed the new version of the map which I’d pulled a lot of over-enrichment out of the cold start parameters and adjusted some of the base fuelling which was way too rich, temps were around 8C in the garage now so it had no drama starting. I then raised the idle to 1000rpm ish to account for the extra load, its showing 4kg/h on each throttle at idle now and still super smooth, like really feking smooth. When I pop the lights and turned the heaters on full etc it drops to around 900-950rpm and stays steady. I changed the ignition at idle lower down, its now at 12 btdc on the 800rpm row to help push it back up, and 15 btdc on the 500rpm row and normal idle at 1000rpm is 10 btdc, it seems really happy there. I have it in open loop with idle ignition control switched on with min and max clamp values set conservatively so its not running 20 degrees at idle or something. After that I was trying different throttle loads and adjusting my fuel map to suit, amazing how the wildly different the tone is for varying amounts of throttle inputs. Really can't wait to get the rear subframe and suspension back on and get it on the road under some proper loading. Also a bit adjustment to overrun settings too, mostly because I'm a child and my neighbors didn't already hate me enough, frankly they should be happy I’m still on a very modest volumed exhaust. I need to find a proper placement for my IAT (its just clipped to the brake prop valve at the moment) and still need to dial in the tune a bit more once its moving under its own power and being an amateur so will certainly look into a taking it somewhere when I get the car running reasonably well enough to do some distance in it but I’m so happy with how its gone so far, and wow does the Hummelink kit sound absolutely glorious and look the part!! 10/10 would recommend. 4AGE 4-Throttle ユーノス ロードスタ S-SPECIAL NA6CE by batousan 2, on Flickr (Also, as I wrote this the Koyorad arrived so thats next to go on). Finally, I put together something of a silly, nostalgic montage of the momentous occasion so if you are an enjoyer of old dead memes, nostalgic cockrock soundtracks from certain video games and ITB noises then you might appreciate its comedic, cheesy short production.
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Post by batou on Jan 31, 2023 20:29:13 GMT
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Post by batou on Feb 20, 2023 11:29:33 GMT
So the Roadster has been out a handful of times now to dial in the tune, so far so good. As mentioned in previous posts this is all my DIY work so anxiety was off the chart for things to start falling off it/blowing up, given its had a complete front and rear suspension nut and bolt overhaul thats understandable lol. On the second drive out I heard a bolt work lose and ping off the exhaust, had to stop and check and couldn't see anything obvious and suspension, wheel nuts etc all stil in place (the reason I hadn't remounted the rear bumper and engine undertray was access/visibility)... after a thorough check in the garage it was the hot side engine ground bolt, I've re-done all ground points including a new cable from battery to PPF so a good job I still had some solid grounding in that case! Found a new bolt and tightened down a little more (i reckon I forgot to torque it or re-check after heatcycling the engine). 4AGE 4-Throttle ユーノス ロードスタ S-SPECIAL NA6CE by batousan 2, on Flickr Suspension alignement is, erm, not exactly ideal but it doesn't do any weird stuff. Theres a fair bit of toe in front and rear and a slight misalignment of the steering but not bad from eyeballing/tape measuring it in an unlevelled, single garage floor. Camber is roughly where it was before but hard to be exact given the subframe and arms have been off, powdercoated and re-fitted with new bolts. The front caster angle as now much more postive than it was before, the DoD suspension arms have really allowed me to dial in more, I recon theres roughly around 4° of negative camber on the fronts which is possibly a bit much when you factor in the camber gain postive caster provides during cornering. I can tell theres more +ve caster as theres no tyre rub on the upper arches or rear wheel well, but I've had to slightly trim around where the bumper joins the arch (where the support bracket is) as the wheel is now further forward in the wells than before with the extra caster. Theres a few scrapey sounds on the road but it will wear itself down over time hopefully (or I'll trim more) as it would be silly to lose beneficial caster for the sake of 2-3mm of plastic. Besides, the wheel fitment is for my goals absolutely perfect.... it could be lower, it could be more tucked, there could be less sidewall, more stretch but I actuallydrivethefuccencar man and I'm not going to fit airride like I've given up (car equivalent of elasticated waist trousers) . As far as the mapping goes the car drives really quite nice all things considered, super smooth at part throttle and transitions to full throttle nicely without any nasty spikes in fueling or igniton. It actually drives pretty much like a normal car around town, super useable. Theres was a lean spot in the very light sub 5% throttle at certain rpm's on last run out but its easy to feel and see on the afr, at more and full throttle its fine if a little rich in places. Last run out for the most part I was getting anywhere 12.5 to 12.1 ish at full throttle which is fairly close to where i want it, 12.7 to 12.5 as I reach redline is where my target is for now. Timing map is actually a little more conservative in the part and mid throttle than the base Link Ign map and similar to a de-tuned 1.8 spark map in that area for the moment, at higher throttle position rpm its again, a ever so slightly de-tuned from a stock 1.8 spark map (they are slightly more advance than a 1.6 apparently, see image below). From 4500rpm I'm going from 20 upto a max of 22.1 at redline (7163rpm), given prior to the ITB's I was running at roughly an extra 4 to 6 degrees of timing (it was about 14 to 16 btdc at 850rpm on oe ecu from cas adjustment) I think this is fine for now, hard to tune an ign map without access to a dyno and the feedback of MBT you get back from it. Stock NA8 Spark Map by batousan 2, on Flickr As for the sounds, they are everything I'd hoped for, its hard not to laugh out loud while driving as it sounds like the engine bay is just re-producing sounds directly from the AE86 4AGE in Initial D, they look so smart too. 4AGE 4-Throttle ユーノス ロードスタ S-SPECIAL NA6CE I'm trying to keep consistent with the video edits, I don't expect anyone to watch the whole thing but heres some sounds from a mic'd up engine bay of me pootling around the local roads to get some ecu logging and testing done recently, I laughed so hard when I first heard the sound... its not this loud in the cabin but not far off.... its certainly louder than before lol.
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