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Post by Vindi (Russell) on May 3, 2022 22:17:34 GMT
Continuing my MO of buying things that are waaaaaaaaaaaaay more capable than I need or even know how to fully use, I've just managed to find another set of 15 x 9 6UL wheels.
I now need some tyres to put on them, fast road / track use - I'm happy to live with them being sketchy in the wet as I'll probably keep my 15 x 7s with road tyres as well
My last set had 225/45/15 R888 tyres, so I'd be looking for something similar, anyone got any pointers or sources to buy them from?
The only contenders I've found available in the UK so far are the Nankang AR-1, Toyo R888r and the MRF ZTR, roughly around £150 a corner. Is there anything else in that size, and has anyone used either or know the general differences?
Russell
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Post by thruxton on May 4, 2022 6:26:47 GMT
Hi Russell.
I use 225/45 x 15 R888 tyres.
They have been excellent, but only when allied to a decent suspension unit. In my car MeisterR units.
Before I fitted the MeisterR units they where totally wasted on the standard set up. They looked good, fat and filled up the arches on 8” rims. No arch rolling.
Oh it’s a 1999 NB.
I’ve also used the Nankang, same size.
The Nankang are good in the wet/damp and not ditch finders. The R888’s need a touch more care in the wet/damp.
My last track day, November last year at Caldwell Park was damp to dry and I was truly amazed at how well the R888’s were.
After a few laps I was treating it like a dry day, no issues at all.
Both tyres are LOUD!
The R888’s being VERY LOUD.
I now use ear plugs, that’s how loud they are, when going any distance 75 + miles.
Regards.
Rich.
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Post by Vindi (Russell) on May 5, 2022 23:18:30 GMT
Hi Russell. I use 225/45 x 15 R888 tyres. I’ve also used the Nankang, same size. The Nankang are good in the wet/damp and not ditch finders. The R888’s need a touch more care in the wet/damp. Rich. Is that R888, or R888r? Wasn't sure how much difference there was between them ... I was happy enough with the 225/45/15 R888 I had on my last set, but haven't used the r's Also is that the AR1 Nankangs? If the AR1 are a bit better in the damp I might go with them, just in case I get caught out ... I'd be driving to & from the tracks and I'm sure they'd get use here & there on the roads Russell |
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Post by thruxton on May 6, 2022 8:06:12 GMT
Good questions.
I have the R888r’s. Ultra noisy.
The Nankang NS2 R. Still very noisy.
The Nankang AR1 I found to be super hard to drive in the wet.
God knows what they would be like on the motorway in rain with standing water.
I’m not sure of the sizes available but the Yokohama Advan Fleva V701 sticks like *hit in the wet and it also does that in the dry!!!
And very quiet on the road. So nice. It’s not a balls out track tyre …. Who cares?
Regards.
Rich.
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Post by Vindi (Russell) on May 7, 2022 0:17:20 GMT
Honestly my ideal would be something like the AD08 but as far as I can find, nothing exists in the UK in 225/45
Russell
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Post by Vindi (Russell) on May 14, 2022 19:41:54 GMT
Good questions. I have the R888r’s. Ultra noisy. The Nankang NS2 R. Still very noisy. The Nankang AR1 I found to be super hard to drive in the wet. God knows what they would be like on the motorway in rain with standing water. I’m not sure of the sizes available but the Yokohama Advan Fleva V701 Regards. Rich. No options for NS2r, or the Advan Fleva, just the AR1 or R888r ... I'm guessing the R888r would be the better option for 'slightly' more all round use, the AR1 a bit more more towards track use? Suspension is very much track focused, and the arbs are uprated. It's a fully stripped and caged car so although I intend to drive it to & from the track it will be very much track focused Russell |
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Post by mrwallace on May 16, 2022 11:41:10 GMT
R888R's are ok on the road and wet but are noisy, AR1 are awesome when hot but even the slighest damp on track and they turn off very suddenly. 225 is also a lot of tyre for an NA/NB though, but i guess even a track type 205 would be a bit stretched on a 9" wheel.
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Post by Vindi (Russell) on Jun 4, 2022 9:55:26 GMT
R888R's are ok on the road and wet but are noisy, AR1 are awesome when hot but even the slighest damp on track and they turn off very suddenly. 225 is also a lot of tyre for an NA/NB though, but i guess even a track type 205 would be a bit stretched on a 9" wheel. That would probably make R888r the better choice ... and yes, 225 are a very slight stretch, so I don't want to go narrower I'm wondering if I can get away with 225/50 which would open up a few more options Russell |
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Post by Vindi (Russell) on Jun 4, 2022 20:20:39 GMT
Ok, 225 / 50 ... Yokohama do the A052 and Pirelli do the P-zero Trofeo R
Not sure if either of these would be a better 'all round' road & track option than the R888r or the AR1?
The A052 is supposedly 200tw, although from what I can tell that's a pretty inaccurate number from Yokohama and they'repretty much a 100tw tyre like the AR1 and R888r. Don'tknow much about the Pirelli though
Russell
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Post by mrwallace on Jun 7, 2022 11:52:51 GMT
A052 are the go to tyre for the SLS series (Scottish time attack basically) from speaking with the guys that do that the A052 area awesome in the dry, very good in the wet and wear very quickly! As you suggest the 200TW thing seems to be a bit of a lie, they're very soft. They're made to suit the US time attack stuff that has a minimum tread wear rating of 200 in the road car classes.
The pirelli are also well regarded especially with heavier cars (M3's) but very expensive! The R888R will be similar to the AR1 but both of these somewhat slower than the A052 and TrofeoR which again will be similar to one another. If it's only occasional track days I'm sure the toyos would last longer but won't give the same outright grip as any of the others.
As you mention the AD08R would be my choice for a fast road car with occasional track use all the others are more track biased. Federal 595RSR are similar if available?
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Post by Vindi (Russell) on Jun 14, 2022 19:44:43 GMT
A052 are the go to tyre for the SLS series (Scottish time attack basically) from speaking with the guys that do that the A052 area awesome in the dry, very good in the wet and wear very quickly! As you suggest the 200TW thing seems to be a bit of a lie, they're very soft. They're made to suit the US time attack stuff that has a minimum tread wear rating of 200 in the road car classes. The pirelli are also well regarded especially with heavier cars (M3's) but very expensive! The R888R will be similar to the AR1 but both of these somewhat slower than the A052 and TrofeoR which again will be similar to one another. If it's only occasional track days I'm sure the toyos would last longer but won't give the same outright grip as any of the others. As you mention the AD08R would be my choice for a fast road car with occasional track use all the others are more track biased. Federal 595RSR are similar if available? Thanks, that's really useful. I don't think the 595rsr come in any useful sizes for me, wish I could get away with 205s! Russell |
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le sigh