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Post by moro on Aug 6, 2018 17:23:28 GMT
Wrote this for MOT man today for my '94 import, maybe will be useful to someone on here. Regarding emissions test. In simple terms, it's a non-cat test because it's a 1994 import. In more detail, the explanation is below. Please note: the car's first registration date is 1 sept 1994. The latest revision of official standards is available online: "In Service Exhaust Emission Standards for Road Vehicles" www.gov.uk/government/publications/in-service-exhaust-emission-standards-for-road-vehicles First, see page 2 - section 1.1: The catalyst test applies to: - All passenger cars first used on or after 1 August 1995 - Other vehicles, such as large passenger cars and light goods vehicles (3), first used on or after 1 August 1994 and mentioned in the Annex to this publication. - Passenger cars first used on or after 1 August 1992 and mentioned in the Annex to this publication. Now it's obvious first two bullet points do not apply, so let's see if the car is mentioned in the Annex. For Mazda, see page 97 of the Annex. A note there states on how to identify Mazda models: "The VDS code consists of the 4th to 9th digit in the VIN number. The VIN can be found on the VIN plate. The serial number consists of the last 6 digits of the VIN number." If you apply this to the chassis code of this car, of course no match for any modification of MX5 (or indeed any other model) listed in the Annex will be produced. To identify which emission values to be used for testing, please look at Table 1 Petrol Fuelled Cars in the same document, the row that applies to the car is: "From 1/8/92 and before 1/8/95 but are not included in the Annex"
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Post by FFS Corders on Aug 6, 2018 19:36:31 GMT
Thanks moro
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Post by mrwallace on Aug 7, 2018 11:50:21 GMT
Thanks!
I've got my mot due and had to fit the CAT last time, will go armed with this info and test requirements and see how I get on.
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Post by wannabe on Aug 7, 2018 12:17:07 GMT
This should be a sticky / in the Guides!
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Post by Whistler on Aug 7, 2018 13:09:49 GMT
I printed this and used to leave a copy on the passenger seat at MOT time. Now updated to this.
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Post by moro on Aug 7, 2018 13:21:10 GMT
Whistler, now this is way cooler than my poor effort!
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Post by boringgit on Aug 8, 2018 17:56:56 GMT
Stickied. This is mega useful stuff. :-)
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Post by Whistler on Nov 27, 2018 16:03:34 GMT
Leave a copy on the passenger seat at MOT time. Now saved as a printable PDF here.
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Post by pazzman on Jul 2, 2021 10:55:24 GMT
Hi all,
Ref the MOT, I have a 92 plate Eunos, I understood the Emissions test with the CAT was only required /operative on vehicles after /from Late 92 and that any vehicles registered prior to DEC 92 were not required to fulfil the CAT test for the MOT. So my car has always been tested as a NON CAT even though it has a CAT fitted. It would never pass the FULL emissions Cat TEST NOW I was told, the garage at that time I was using was a mainstream Halfords Autocentre and the mechanic/ tester after initially failing it on emissions (cat full test) and my enlightening him on my notion that it didn't require the full CAT emissions test due to its age, went to look it up and subsequently advised that it could be tested as a NON CAT and then it passed ok..so as you say they must be able to check using the VIN or whatever. Typically I haven't used Halfords for a while and now get MOTd at a local Family run Garage and they never test it as a CAT version anyway.. So I suggested that I might remove the CAT and go straight through (add some performance)but they were of the opinion that with the CAT removed it could / probably fail the ordinary NON CAT emissions then, so the CAT although it probably being nackd as its nearly 30 years old is still helping reduce the overall emissions they suggest, and so advised its best left in place. Anyhow that's my experience for what its worth. Paz
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Post by batou on Jul 2, 2021 11:02:16 GMT
Yeah, the place I normally take mine to do a visual inspection to check if a cats in place. Techincally you can get away with a decat as its a non-cat test, but it will fail visual so they gave me a freebie that time, but he says with things getting stricter they will have to do the visual check next time.
He also said, its only because its obvious there was a cat in the system (sensor hanging down and a pipe that looks out of place) and if you change the whole system to a straight through, as long as it looks all the same exhaust and meant to be there, you'd pass visual without a cat. Hope that makes sense.
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Post by pazzman on Jul 2, 2021 12:51:45 GMT
Hmm, agreed, that makes sense, I already have a 4 into 1 race manifold SS back to the CAT section, not sure about whether if you disconnect remove the CAT sensors it effects anything in the engine management? or ECU setup, otherwise I think I would defo de-cat and as you say as long as there is no evidence that it wasn't always decated then perhaps you are ok, when I go for my MOT at the end of this month I will raise the question with the MOT centre and c if they would allow it to pass without a CAT..no harm in finding out? Cheers Paz
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Post by wannabe on Jul 2, 2021 16:38:32 GMT
Yeah, the place I normally take mine to do a visual inspection to check if a cats in place. Techincally you can get away with a decat as its a non-cat test, but it will fail visual so they gave me a freebie that time, but he says with things getting stricter they will have to do the visual check next time. He also said, its only because its obvious there was a cat in the system (sensor hanging down and a pipe that looks out of place) and if you change the whole system to a straight through, as long as it looks all the same exhaust and meant to be there, you'd pass visual without a cat. Hope that makes sense. Does the 'if it had a Cat, it must always have a Cat for the MOT' rule apply to pre-mandatory-Cat cars?
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Post by dickie on Jul 2, 2021 17:02:42 GMT
Just be carefull, The rules for UK cars and Eunos imports are different when it comes to emmisions.
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Post by dadbif on Jul 4, 2021 6:25:33 GMT
Before I fitted my new silenced decat exhaust I spoke to my local MOT chap, after a lot of tooth sucking and checking on his computer he announced that my December 1992 did NOT require one. He was dubious because he had thrice tested it previously with one fitted, I convinced him that an over zealous previous owner had done it. Seems to be some unwritten law that if it was originally supplied with one you cannot delete it. Passed MOT a couple of days later. Makes me happier since it has set a precedent. But I agree with previous sentiments, a few testers appear to be a law unto themselves.
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Post by wannabe on Jul 4, 2021 10:58:25 GMT
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