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Post by oni on Sept 14, 2016 10:26:00 GMT
Hi there.
I am in the process of replacing doorcards. The new doorcards I have picked up have a tiny speaker, tweeter thingy? In the top padded trim. I am replacing the door speakers as they are 23 years old when I removed the doorcards literally crumbled to dust.
My question is the tiny speakers, do they just wire straight in/connect to the door speakers?
Not being an audiophile I'm at a loss.
I only really use radio/CD thing if stuck in traffic on motorway.
Also what controls the loudness/quality of the sound?
Is it the speakers or the radio/CD bit?
Oni.
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Post by atlex on Sept 14, 2016 11:03:03 GMT
They're called Tweeters..  They were standard on some of the models. But I'm not an audiobodge, I await an audiobodger to enlighten further. |
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Post by Meerkat on Sept 14, 2016 11:04:21 GMT
Hi! Most component systems (with seperate woofers [large] and tweeters [small]) have a crossover which filters the signal coming through and sends the high frequencies to the tweeters and the low frequencies to the woofers. This is basically a little box with one set of incoming terminals for the signal coming from the radio, and two sets of terminals for the woofer and tweeter. The crossover normally comes as part of a set when buying component speakers, as in this example: JBL Component Set but you can buy them individually. Some tweeters are designed to not need a crossover, in which case it would just be wired directly to the terminals on your woofer as you say above. Normally the documentation about the tweeters will say if a crossover is required or not. You will get better audio quality if you use a crossover though. As for loudness/quality, there are a lot of factors which affect this. Having a good quality headunit with plenty of power (watts) is a good place to start, the cheaper ones usually aren't very powerful and will start to distort pretty quickly when you turn the volume up, especially if you listen to music with lots of bass (eg. electronic music). I would say this is more important than the speakers, but good speakers also do make a difference to the audio quality. Another very important point to audio quality is the environment where the speaker is placed. A hifi speaker sounds good because the speaker box has been specifically designed to tune and amplify the sound of the speaker and reinforce the bass (like a musical instrument). Doors (especially in the MX5) are not very good environments for good quality audio because they aren't designed acoustically. So typically you will get sound which lacks punch and sounds tinny. You can improve things somewhat by adding acoustic padding inside the door and sealing off as many of the holes as possible (unfortunately there are a LOT of holes!) The less sound that can escape around the speaker, the better it will sound. |
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Post by BikeTuna on Sept 14, 2016 11:32:03 GMT
Well, I might have been able to usefully reply to this, but Meerkat has got it in the bag...
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Post by oni on Sept 14, 2016 12:35:19 GMT
Aah! Ok.
Well just had a look at the head unit thing.
Is just a cheap Kenwood 50w CD/radio so about Ā£25 brand new.
Speakers I bought were JVC 620x so just cheapies. Will just trim wire of the tweeter things and tape up save any faffing.
Cheers chaps,
Oni.
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Post by Rickster on Sept 14, 2016 12:40:24 GMT
last thing you need in an Mx5 is tweeters, my door speakers sound all high frequency and tinny as hell anyway!!!!  |
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Post by Meerkat on Sept 14, 2016 13:45:11 GMT
last thing you need in an Mx5 is tweeters, my door speakers sound all high frequency and tinny as hell anyway!!!! Yep, agreed! Aah! Ok. Well just had a look at the head unit thing. Is just a cheap Kenwood 50w CD/radio so about Ā£25 brand new. Speakers I bought were JVC 620x so just cheapies. Will just trim wire of the tweeter things and tape up save any faffing. Cheers chaps, Oni. Kenwood is a reasonable brand, but yeah 50w is bit low on power so probably won't sound great. I have JVC speakers in my doors and to be honest they're not bad. If you upgraded your headunit and put some sound dampening in the doors you'd get a reasonable (if not earth-shattering) sound.  |
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Post by oni on Sept 15, 2016 17:27:26 GMT
Well I received speakers today.
Had to drill holes in the doors to fit them which was a tad annoying.
Sound comes out of them so all good I think.
Will test them tomorrow, chuck some slipknot and korn through them to see what they sound like.
Oni.
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Post by Rickster on Sept 15, 2016 18:28:56 GMT
Well I received speakers today. Had to drill holes in the doors to fit them which was a tad annoying. Sound comes out of them so all good I think. Will test them tomorrow, chuck some slipknot and korn through them to see what they sound like. Oni. "Blind" is one of my favourite track starts!! |
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Post by oni on Sept 15, 2016 21:08:11 GMT
Well I received speakers today. Had to drill holes in the doors to fit them which was a tad annoying. Sound comes out of them so all good I think. Will test them tomorrow, chuck some slipknot and korn through them to see what they sound like. Oni. "Blind" is one of my favourite track starts!! Ha! Yes š One of the very few riffs I have actually learned to play. Freak on a leash one of my favourites even if it was somewhat mainstream. I think NIN will be the real test haha. Found a mini upgrade to the head unit, an early 90's double din kenwood. Will fit with the oldish look of my 5. Oni. |
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Post by Dweenimus on Sept 15, 2016 21:25:09 GMT
"Blind" is one of my favourite track starts!! Ha! Yes š One of the very few riffs I have actually learned to play. Freak on a leash one of my favourites even if it was somewhat mainstream. I think NIN will be the real test haha. Found a mini upgrade to the head unit, an early 90's double din kenwood. Will fit with the oldish look of my 5. Oni. Korn and limp bizkit are touring the uk together in December |
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Post by Rickster on Sept 15, 2016 22:03:36 GMT
I've played in bands since I was 14 and still going now I'm (a lot) older! So hearing that Korn and Limp Bizkit are touring together goes to show you've gotta keep playing!
BTW Don't Fred and Jonathan hate each other?
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Post by atlex on Sept 15, 2016 22:13:56 GMT
test.. ?  dink - green mind kid rock - bawitdaba |
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Post by oni on Sept 15, 2016 23:37:26 GMT
test.. ? dink - green mind kid rock - bawitdaba Definitely Kid Rock š I have mixed tastes haha. Everything from Nina Simone to Celtic Frost! Oni. |
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le sigh