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Post by chris71 on May 1, 2017 16:00:03 GMT
Hi,
I have the following which I'd like to fit to my MK1
Uprated sway bars (13mm and 19mm) which are adjustable and poly bushed.
Front engine brace.
Full bolt in rear roll bar
Koni shocks adjustable on the dampening not height but looking to lower by around 40- 50mm as I'm on 14's and staggered.
So my question is would this set up be suitable for the road or could it be too stiff and snappy ?
I remember when I was into 5th scale RC I completely ruined my cars handling as was to stiff because I uprated everything. The worst that happened then was that I hit the barriers on the track and broke my car. I then learnt, repaired and moved on.
But now being a car I drive and sit in, I'm slightly more concerned about the outcome of my choices as I can't repair myself
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Post by atlex on May 1, 2017 17:31:31 GMT
I'd say on 14"s you can probably get away with this for a daily / roadcar. all that sidewall  |
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Post by lowender on May 1, 2017 18:12:11 GMT
What springs are you going to use?
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Post by chris71 on May 1, 2017 18:52:29 GMT
What springs are you going to use? Not sure. This is way I'm asking about everything. |
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Post by wannabe on May 1, 2017 19:47:23 GMT
I have found the mk2 shocks/springs to be a good upgrade from completely life-expired original kit, but the spring chop required to get them not looking like a 4x4 means their spring rate increases - so while it's now 'firm', I find it doesn't really 'flow' over a bumpy road as well as I'd like. I think going too hard/stiff just means the limits are higher but the breakaway point is a lot snappier, and it makes one slower over a bumpy road because the tyres don't get a chance to really flow over the road surface, if that makes sense. 'Jinbai itta' (or however you spell it  ) is the 5 way, so I think keeping it reasonably supple on a road car is a good idea! |
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Post by atlex on May 1, 2017 20:45:27 GMT
avoid fitting race suspension, get some road springs and if adjustable, keep the damping low rather than hard.
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Post by chris71 on May 3, 2017 16:50:06 GMT
Thanks.
Been looking at lowering springs and the brands Tein, Apex, V.Maxx, Spax and PI seem to pop up quite a bit and seem to be decent brands.
Has anyone used any of the above or have recommendations on another brand I should consider ?
Thanks
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Post by Meerkat on May 3, 2017 17:03:01 GMT
My car came with Teins on and I really like the ride. They're set a bit lower than standard which looks nice, but the ride is still relatively forgiving and quite 'OEM' in feel, so you don't feel like your spine is protruding into your skull every time you go over a pothole or a speed bump. I can still corner enthusiastically and I don't lose grip in the wet (unless I want to). I'll definitely be replacing like-for-like when they eventually wear out.
As for additional bracing, I can't really speak for that since I don't have any on my car, but my view is that the Mazda designers did know what they were doing when they designed the car, and to a certain degree the car is intended to flex a bit, and it almost forms part of the suspension.
With that said, I think it really depends what you want from the car, and your own preferences. Obviously it was designed mainly for 'enthusiastic' road use, but if you're thinking of tracking it then perhaps a stiffer and flatter ride would be preferable.
Anyway, that's just my two cents, and I'm not a suspension expert by any means.
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Post by Meerkat on May 3, 2017 17:07:07 GMT
Also, it does somewhat depend how solid your car is - the more rusty bits there are, the more it will flex, in which case you might need to stiffen things up a bit.
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Post by chris71 on May 3, 2017 19:02:10 GMT
Overall, from what I've seen my car is solid with no rust issues. Getting ready for the MOT so hopefully nothing bad will pop up. Done the MOT history check and there was only a few advisories in the past but with nothing major on the structural parts of things so fingers crossed all will be good on the day.
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Post by minty on May 3, 2017 19:28:53 GMT
I have found the mk2 shocks/springs to be a good upgrade from completely life-expired original kit, but the spring chop required to get them not looking like a 4x4 means their spring rate increases - so while it's now 'firm', I find it doesn't really 'flow' over a bumpy road as well as I'd like. I think going too hard/stiff just means the limits are higher but the breakaway point is a lot snappier, and it makes one slower over a bumpy road because the tyres don't get a chance to really flow over the road surface, if that makes sense. 'Jinbai itta' (or however you spell it ) is the 5 way, so I think keeping it reasonably supple on a road car is a good idea! TBH I thought your car felt rather good (from the passenger seat) on very bumpy roads. Was quite impressed. |
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Post by wannabe on May 4, 2017 12:19:39 GMT
I have found the mk2 shocks/springs to be a good upgrade from completely life-expired original kit, but the spring chop required to get them not looking like a 4x4 means their spring rate increases - so while it's now 'firm', I find it doesn't really 'flow' over a bumpy road as well as I'd like. I think going too hard/stiff just means the limits are higher but the breakaway point is a lot snappier, and it makes one slower over a bumpy road because the tyres don't get a chance to really flow over the road surface, if that makes sense. 'Jinbai itta' (or however you spell it ) is the 5 way, so I think keeping it reasonably supple on a road car is a good idea! TBH I thought your car felt rather good (from the passenger seat) on very bumpy roads. Was quite impressed. Why, thank you, kind sir! |
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Post by minty on May 4, 2017 20:09:00 GMT
TBH I thought your car felt rather good (from the passenger seat) on very bumpy roads. Was quite impressed. Why, thank you, kind sir! You know, I meant not bad for an old pink 5  |
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Post by wannabe on May 4, 2017 22:09:40 GMT
Why, thank you, kind sir! You know, I meant not bad for an old pink 5 The best things in life are pink |
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) is the 5 way, so I think keeping it reasonably supple on a road car is a good idea!
le sigh