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Post by fellows on Mar 24, 2018 11:53:15 GMT
Another thread, off the back of my tyre width thread...
I've just got the new tyres fitted (195/50r15), and was just wondering what pressures other people run on the same setup? Do you still use the Mazda pressures or different?
Any feedback appreciated.
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Post by wannabe on Mar 24, 2018 15:01:53 GMT
I'm sure others run around 26psi? but I run 31 - it feels like there's too much 'squidge' when they're lower.
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Post by atlex on Mar 24, 2018 15:57:56 GMT
Tyres will take a large range of pressure variation because they have to. Pressures are all about the pressure the tyre is expected to see in service and cold pressures are just a starting point as to where they are expected to get in service. Obviously for the vast majority of road driving, cold pressures are the best and sometimes only way to work this. However don't think that is what it is about. If you set 26psi in 15 degree ambient then when as recently the temps dropped to -8 that pressure will be much lower. Equally just the sun on a tyre can raise static pressure by as much as 5psi So the cold pressure is not the operating pressure. One of the biggest mistakes people make going on track, where the tyre is worked much harder, is dropping to silly low pressures. A hot working pressure on an MX-5 is around 32psi. That is hot off the track, not having stood for 10 minutes. It can go higher. High pressures are a potential indication of a tyre being over worked or the rubber compound not being suitable and over heating. Some drivers will run their tyres in wet race condition as high as 45psi. This is because the stiff sidewall then means the tread moves more heating that better, combating the water which is sucking temp out of the tyre. For sprints, especially hill climbs, set the hot tyre to start with as there is no time for a tyre to build temperature and come up to pressure. Even on whole lap runs of somewhere like Snetterton, still start with a higher than "cold" pressure because the compromise of taking 3/4 of a lap to get to the right pressure is not worth the floppy tyre on that first 3/4. Hot or operating pressures, is what it is all about. 26-29psi Cold see how it feels .. drive it, compare it. Further comment to kinda explain what nickd means by hot mansplaining a tyre guy lol.. Pressure and temperature are always directly correlated. A sealed system (like a good wheel) is one pressure at one temperature will be a lower pressure at a lower temperature. and vice versa.
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Post by fellows on Mar 24, 2018 17:03:17 GMT
Cheers chaps. That gives me a starting pressure.
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Post by dadbif on Mar 24, 2018 22:21:44 GMT
MK1, 185/60’s 25psi
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Post by FFS Corders on Mar 25, 2018 19:48:25 GMT
As Alex says. Over 30 is too much, under 25 is too low but depends on the tyre and how you personally find it with different pressures
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Post by Rickster on Mar 25, 2018 20:02:27 GMT
I have Michelin ps3 If you search online you can find their data for the tyre size and importantly weight of car (easy with mx5 because it is equally distributed) I think they recommend 25 - 28psi I run 26 However it depends very much on tyre
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Post by wannabe on Mar 25, 2018 21:51:26 GMT
I have Michelin ps3 If you search online you can find their data for the tyre size and importantly weight of car (easy with mx5 because it is equally distributed) I think they recommend 25 - 28psi I run 26 However it depends very much on tyre Ooh, that sounds interesting - will search it out!
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Post by Rickster on Mar 26, 2018 7:54:54 GMT
I'm having a job finding the link now The only one I did find was saying that you should never go below 28psi cold
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Post by Rickster on Mar 26, 2018 8:02:53 GMT
Found this but it's for Toyo r888 VEHICLE WEIGHT COLD PRESSURE HOT PRESSURE Very Light < 800kg 17 – 22 psi 22 – 29 psi Light 800kg – 1000kg 20 – 26 psi 24 – 32 psi Heavy 1000kg – 1400kg 23 – 27 psi 28 – 40 psi Very Heavy > 1400kg 27 – 35 psi
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Post by wannabe on Mar 26, 2018 9:11:50 GMT
Light 800kg – 1000kg 20 – 26 psi 24 – 32 psi
20 psi!!
That's like a flat tyre! lol
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Post by Rickster on Mar 26, 2018 9:16:00 GMT
Light 800kg – 1000kg 20 – 26 psi 24 – 32 psi 20 psi!! That's like a flat tyre! lol Yes, i once did the gurston hill with 20 psi by mistake because my gauge was reading incorrectly, (it was a warm day so cold pressure may have been less!!) it did look like I had a slightly flat tyre - not good the R888 is a track focussed tyre I believe and so maybe takes a lower pressure I think i will go with the 26psi on track - it seemed to work ok for me at Combe this weekend
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Post by fellows on Mar 26, 2018 9:22:23 GMT
I used to run my TVR S3 at 24psi and that was fine. Also about the same weight as a Mx5 na.
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Post by wannabe on Mar 26, 2018 11:02:00 GMT
I just hate when you have that sort of 'delay' in turn-in while you have to wait for soft sidewalls to load up!
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Post by atlex on Mar 26, 2018 13:33:21 GMT
also only check/do tyre pressures cold. after a few miles driving the tyres are hot.
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