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Post by cat on Jul 22, 2018 13:24:26 GMT
So yeh, Canoe rain rails... what the absolute prarrie canoe mazda? I *THINK* what's happening is that the rail is filling up becoming overwhelmed and then spilling over the top... the water appears from down the back of the plastic crap and goes into the boot. I'm actually kind of at a loss.. I don't know what I'm missing here. The water appears near the seam to the right of the silver cover thingy:  If you have ANY advice PLEASE PLEASE explain to me what the HELL to do to make the water NOT BE ON THE INSIDE!!! |
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Post by cat on Jul 22, 2018 14:09:21 GMT
So some of the internet suggests that it's important that the beltline moulding goes *inside* the rain rail, which is an interesting point since there's a mother Canoeing GAP between the beltline moulding and the top of the IL motorsports rail I pissed away a hundred quid on. Do imports have different beltlines or rails?
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Post by Zed. on Jul 22, 2018 14:37:17 GMT
So some of the internet suggests that it's important that the beltline moulding goes *inside* the rain rail, which is an interesting point since there's a mother canoeing GAP between the beltline moulding and the top of the IL motorsports rail I pissed away a hundred quid on. Do imports have different beltlines or rails? do you have the metal reinforcement rail 'upside-down'? IE. 'U' shaped not as it is in the photo? also, which way round do you have the plastic rail (looks to have a crease??) as I believe the tall section is towards the passanger compartment with the shorter vertical section towards the boot / rear?? Rich. |
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Post by cat on Jul 22, 2018 15:07:05 GMT
Those are good questions. I found this picture on the internets  And had a fiddle with that lip, but i'm buggered if i can get it to be poking up the way. I've got the brackets on the same way they were on when I got the car, but it's entirely probable some chump in the past put them on updside down I'm not sure what you mean by "IE. 'U' shaped not as it is in the photo?" because that picture at the top of this page is literally my car. and the orientation of the metal bold on doobers seems to be right according to the diagram in this post. The plastic rail came with a preferred direction to be in, and i fitted it that way around because it would be one hell of a fight to get it in the other way round, the creases i am no bloody happy about, they were caused by the postal system and i was unable to get them to relax. I think this is just a prarrie canoe show and I'm going to have to give this job to a professional because I am just about right out of science at this stage. SAD FACE. |
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Post by Zed. on Jul 22, 2018 15:45:20 GMT
I'm not sure what you mean by "IE. 'U' shaped not as it is in the photo?" because that picture at the top of this page is literally my car. and the orientation of the metal bold on doobers seems to be right according to the diagram in this post. in the diagram, item #11 is what I'm refering to, in your photo & the diagram its an inverted 'U' shape, on my car & a few others I've seen (& the one I broke for spares) it was 'U' shaped - or channel shaped (I thought this was for the tonau-cover to clip onto, then I fitted the tonnau to the trim around the cockpit  ) sorry, I'm not good at written explinations  Rich. |
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Post by cat on Jul 24, 2018 11:27:22 GMT
Anyone know what this connector is called and which is likely to be pin 1?  |
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Post by cat on Jul 24, 2018 17:44:50 GMT
Hard to get the camera in there well enough, and i even got my thumb in frame for standard prarrie canoe photography, but for the unaware, the top black bit is the 'beltline' around the rear canoe of the car. The black bit at the bottom is the rain rail, and WHY IS THERE THAT BLUE BIT OF CAR?!  I put some gaffer tape over the rain rail but under the belt line and that area no longer leaks, but obviously its companion area on the other side of the car which isn't taped is now leaking just a little. It seems madness to me that that gap exists, do I have a bit of car missing?! Is the rain rail supposed to stand off the back wall of the car? Are there supposed to be washers holding the rail away from the hood? How can it possibly be that I have Canoeed this up completely every. single. time. I've. tried? |
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Post by scottydugg on Jul 25, 2018 7:40:06 GMT
Have you got the roof's fabric sitting in the "U" of the rain rail? When we got my car they had done: car-roof-rain rail (Leaked a lot and drain holes were clogged!, when it should be car-rain rail (back)-roof-rain rail (front). Also, there was a really good guide on nutz on how to refurbish your standard rain rail (probably unavailable now), blank off all un-used holes with tape and silicone.There are also felt-washer thingies that go between the car and the rain rail, but you can just replace these with silicone when fitting rain rail in position. There's a specific order you tighten all the bolts, but I'm not sure how critical that is. Don't send it to someone, can easy get this fixed  |
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Post by cat on Jul 25, 2018 17:55:45 GMT
Yes, were the fabric not in the channel then it would leak everywhere, I push the rain rail back onto the studs then push the hood onto the studs then the innermost face of the rain rail onto the studs and then the plates to seal the whole prarrie canoe show up. Every single hole in the rail is taped and sealed with silicone washers. it just seems for all the world that, with a bunch of water applied, the rail gets overwhelmed and the water makes a break for the back wall of the car. The fact that the rail is too shallow to reach the beltline concerns me, and it does seem that spanning that gap with gaffer tape 'works' but it feels wrong, shouldn't be needed and I'm just so confused that with my undeniable intellect I cannot after repeated repeated attempts ever succeed at this mundane task. To restate, it's a brand new rail, not a repaired original. All the supplier ever says is 'we fit loads of these and they never go wrong' but evidently they have a method that I don't. I'd be tempted to give it to Mazda if it wasn't for the £500 in labour I'd pay and the fact that I'm sure they'd just bodge it in knowing I'd never look anyway and who could demand a 20 year old car actually be watertight anyway?
In non ranty news, the battery is now held in with a genuine bunch of mazda clampery which makes me a little happier, i'm going to wedge the screen wash alloy crap with some packing material and go for a decent thrash in it at the weekend. It's time to do a few miles.
I've also got the connector for the boost solenoid wired up to a long tail, so I can splice that into the purge solenoid wiring and then I think there's not much left to do before booking it in for a tune.
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Post by cat on Jul 26, 2018 18:27:53 GMT
Oops, bought a hard top, which will surely bring a new set of leaks into play \o/
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Post by cat on Aug 1, 2018 18:35:41 GMT
Started off the evening here: But then via the application of this: This happened:
And on the second try, this happened:
So that seems like a fairly productive evening... that sticker needs to come off though! Now I have to dry out a wet hood inside a hard top... application of a dehumidifier and then taking the hardtop off come the first sunny day, I think.
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Post by cat on Aug 2, 2018 17:24:58 GMT
So I'm a bit of a chav at heart, or possibly as I've moved really far north, a bit of a ned... but aside from my piss poor potatoshop skillz, how toss does this look if one considered it's going to get dropped a little on the new gaz bouncies? I have a bit of a thing for the 5 spokers, and I assume I can have the hood done in some vinyl if I want to waste money like that.
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Post by cat on Aug 3, 2018 17:54:45 GMT
secret project had fallen off the rails because of a bum thing... which didn't have the right pinnyness to do a thing. But oddly enough some people did something similar and I found out about a part which is in the post and might very very very well make secret project completable. Perhaps even with fewer parts than I initially feared. How simple are mazdas? glorious little things.
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Post by Rasc on Aug 3, 2018 18:12:02 GMT
Great thread this, certainly one of the more interesting and entertaining ones on M5S.
Not so sure on the white HT however I can see the attraction on matching the rims, however everyone’s taste is different. Love the reference to the Non Educated Delinquents ;-)
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Post by cat on Aug 4, 2018 13:17:51 GMT
Whoops, part of it fell out!
Now to tidy up the wiring and liberate the carpet for a good shampooing
I don't know what people whine about, that came out super easy and is fine as a one person job. it's a really light dash. I only had to dyke out one wire, which was almost certainly one I bodged in for the central locking!
I expect a different tone of post when I attempt to put it back in, heh.
So, the back of the clutch dingle is leaking, I wonder how I address that. I don't appear to have a lower clutch switch so how am i supposed to do launch control? I found a grommit in the side of the tunnel on the passenger side which seems to be open, i wonder if that's where all the water in the footwell originated... ho hum, I will keep looking for evidence of water staining as i continue to try and make my car water resistant.
oh and the one wire that got caught up that I missed completely was the handbrake... the handbrake ladies and gentlemen, that was the answer we were looking for.
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