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Post by BikeTuna on Jul 8, 2018 21:02:29 GMT
If you set yourself up with a Google analytics a count you can see how many people are coming, how far they get into the site before they leave, and see if you can spot any trends, like people leaving after the landing page so that needs rewriting, or at the registration page where there might be a capcha fault?
Another massive key thing for Google is back linking. They play it down but it's obviously still counting to ranking data. Google believe that if other pages link to you then you are a quality reference, so you need more sites to link to you. But those sites MUST be relevant or it will harm your ratings. A link from another car site will help, a link from a site about kittens will harm, a link from an obvious link farm will get you blacklisted, so don't buy links off fiverr, try and contact some bloggers and stuff and see if you can write a piece for them or do an interview in exchange for a solid link.
I've done years of this, pm me anytime.
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Post by Rickster on Jul 9, 2018 7:44:44 GMT
I am reading this with interest.
This is all witchcraft to me but would links from some of our friendly trade sponsors help?
Skuzzle, DaveFab, Vindi etc?
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Post by wannabe on Jul 9, 2018 9:13:19 GMT
If you set yourself up with a Google analytics a count you can see how many people are coming, how far they get into the site before they leave, and see if you can spot any trends, like people leaving after the landing page so that needs rewriting, or at the registration page where there might be a capcha fault? Another massive key thing for Google is back linking. They play it down but it's obviously still counting to ranking data. Google believe that if other pages link to you then you are a quality reference, so you need more sites to link to you. But those sites MUST be relevant or it will harm your ratings. A link from another car site will help, a link from a site about kittens will harm, a link from an obvious link farm will get you blacklisted, so don't buy links off fiverr, try and contact some bloggers and stuff and see if you can write a piece for them or do an interview in exchange for a solid link. I've done years of this, pm me anytime.
But all-seeing google is eeeeeevil 
PH forum kills my phone with all the scripts chuntering away in the background!
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Post by BikeTuna on Jul 10, 2018 8:48:41 GMT
Links from trade sponsors will definitely help. Their content is relevant to ours, so for them to link to us implies to google that we are worth linking to and therefore rank higher. The more people that link to you and the better your content is increases your PageRank (a 1 to 10 score on how good google thinks you are at what you do), and pages with a higher PageRank that link to you are worth more than pages with a low score. Pages that are blacklisted will harm your rankings, and these are usually the link farms or autogenerated spam links you get form Fiverr and the like.
Googles algoriths for content are kept very secret, and are changing all the time. My own sites were penalised when the penguin update came out a few years back and it was proper effort to get them ranked again. They only tell you to create content that people want to see. Between the lines this means getting your site read, clicked on, daily hits and daily content will always get noticed so to generate this yourself you need to direct traffic to the site.
A really simple one that we can all do to give this site a boost is to ask all the site members on here to go to other car forums that they don't use anymore and change their post footer to link to this site. It means that whenever someone goes to their other sites and picks up an archived post the URL for here flashes up and gets logged as another hit. Try and make your new footer link to an imbedded page like a build thread rather than just the homepage, its another google thing that means you are linking to content rather than just the site so they think the content is worth more recognition.
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Post by BikeTuna on Jul 10, 2018 9:11:40 GMT
Having a quick look into the backlinks, theres nothing coming in here at all. bc.linkody.com/en/seo-tools/free-backlink-checker/mighty5s.com?p=1Theres a lot to do. Get the site onto it's own URL instead of proboards, then set up google analytics and bing webmasters to get some proper info on how the site is being found and how users get through the site, then submit it to all the search engines and seo trackers and then give it a month, and you'll have instant presence on google. At lest typing the url into google shows your site so theey know its there, that's a start! |
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Post by Horney on Jul 10, 2018 9:16:20 GMT
Here’s guys.
Alex had set up Google Analytics. Mighty5s.com exists as a URL but that takes you straight to the ProBoards site. Are you saying we should have a landing page and then a link to the forum?
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Post by Rickster on Jul 10, 2018 10:10:03 GMT
Having a quick look into the backlinks, theres nothing coming in here at all. bc.linkody.com/en/seo-tools/free-backlink-checker/mighty5s.com?p=1Theres a lot to do. Get the site onto it's own URL instead of proboards, then set up google analytics and bing webmasters to get some proper info on how the site is being found and how users get through the site, then submit it to all the search engines and seo trackers and then give it a month, and you'll have instant presence on google. At lest typing the url into google shows your site so theey know its there, that's a start! See - I told you its all witchcraft  |
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Post by Dweenimus on Jul 10, 2018 10:50:56 GMT
I know nothing of all the Google search stuff. But from my own experience how to guides brought me to nutz very often. And I'd imagine the same for many others.
Maybe the more guides on the site we have the more links to Google we'd get?
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Post by BikeTuna on Jul 10, 2018 11:08:49 GMT
Here’s guys. Alex had set up Google Analytics. Mighty5s.com exists as a URL but that takes you straight to the ProBoards site. Are you saying we should have a landing page and then a link to the forum?
The problem youll always have is that the site content is not on the host URL. All the inbound links you are you to get, all the content you have, all the stuff people want to read isn't on the home URL, it's on the proboards site. Any SEO you do will not boost the home URL at all, and your landing page wont have enough info on it to gain any notoriety as a resource or have constant changing info to show regular updates. You'll be doing double the SEO for essentially 2 URLS and only getting half the results.
If it was my site the first step would be to move the forums onto the home URL and host them yourself. it'll be a royal PITA to do but it'll make things so much easier in the long run....
Dweenimus says having how to guides on the site brings in people - I definitely agree, and I don't know if you remember Horney, but right at the start of the forums I suggested that you host the images for the guides yourself to guarantee their safety? That kind of content is what brings people to the site for sure and making sure it all works years down the line is what will really separate your info from the likes of Nuts, who have lost all their guides to the photobucket mess...
...but none of it will promote your URL if they aren't hosted on it. Get it over and done with it now, before you put loads of effort into SEO, promotion and backlinks and then change your mind and do it later, and then lose all your proboards backlinks and all the work you've done to date.
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Post by Horney on Jul 10, 2018 11:20:53 GMT
I don’t think I can put the content on the main url as ProBoards host the forum. I’d have to start again from scratch with forum software on a hosted service. Life is too busy for that.
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Post by BikeTuna on Jul 10, 2018 11:51:09 GMT
You should be able to do it, I've moved forums before. Do you have mysql access to your proboards backend? can you access and locally back up your databases?
If you can then you install the downloadable version of proboards into your URL site and install it, and then overwrite the autogenerated databases content with your own. Best thing is, is that as you are building your site from the backups, the current site will stay live and you will only lose the forum content added between the back up and the live switchover (so make a backup and get it all working and when youre ready warn everyone and then do another backup)
Another way to do it is to set up an new forum software (my personal fave being phpbb) and then scraping your own site and importing it to the new software. PHPbb has the software to do it but apparently proboards don't like it...
Some (not especially) light reading on that:
www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=776295
EDIT: you don't have database access, its a proboards thing. Scraping is your only method if youre looking to move. I'll see what options proboards gives for SEO when I find 5 mins, but it's not going to be as strong as your own site. |
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Post by atlex on Jul 12, 2018 14:27:08 GMT
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Post by Horney on Jul 12, 2018 14:36:29 GMT
I never regret anything, well apart from this one girl back when......
......Anyhow. Carry on.
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Post by BikeTuna on Jul 12, 2018 14:37:20 GMT
Need to update the metadata for the homepage description, shows in google as:
Mighty5s Forum. ... For racers and fans of the best UK MX5 racing series. Moderators: ... Want to compete in an MX5, found out where and when in here.
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Post by atlex on Jul 12, 2018 15:30:47 GMT
I've reworded the MAX5 section - google, I think, is detecting the word "for" and then pulling the rest of the words following "for" into the description  Should probably find some way to make the forum description get scraped instead.. |
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le sigh