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Post by atlex on Jul 15, 2021 20:30:42 GMT
I've already solved this problem but I'm putting here for the sake of content/discussion and other people searching for info.
This is in my 1989 NA6CE Eunos Roadster..
So I was driving along and not giving it that much right foot when twice in the space of a minute the rev counter dropped and the car 'lost power' but then suddenly it came back. It didn't lose revs - the engine kept turning, the car didn't stop it just didn't have ignition for 2-5 seconds. Like the fueling and ignition system had failed through lack of power.
I finished the journey without further issues and parked up. I thought it might be an earthing issue so retightened the battery posts. But when I tried to drive the car again... it wouldn't start!
I've seen this issue before and it's some lack of current issue through one of the relays. A relay has failed, causing another to buzz.
The buzzing came from under the dash (the big fuel pump relay) but it wasn't getting enough constant current to stay open, it was buzzing trying to make the contact. I've replaced this relay before and that didn't solve the problem.
The relay that had failed is the B6S8 relay in the engine bay. aka 'Fuel Inj'.
Luckily, this isn't my first time at the buzzer bingo relay rodeo. I actually keep a spare B6S8 in the car. 30 seconds later I swap it out...
Starts up like normal.
I understand this is actually down to me running a terribad ME221 ECU which doesn't quite drive the fuel system right, and I will rectify that at some point soon.
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Post by Zed. on Jul 15, 2021 20:34:03 GMT
good to find (& share) an easy fix I understand this is actually down to me running a terribad ME221 ECU which doesn't quite drive the fuel system right, and I will rectify that at some point soon. fallen out of love with the ME dream then? seems like they're not the scene's favourite anymore Rich.
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Post by atlex on Jul 15, 2021 20:40:57 GMT
yup, I've been wanting to replace it for over a year, just waiting for funds and appropriate timing.
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Post by warpspeed on Jul 17, 2021 0:08:17 GMT
Our cars are starting to age, and those power relays slowly start to get burned and pitted contacts over time. And you can be sure that when one finally quits, it will be at the most inconvenient time and place.
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Post by gbuk on Jul 17, 2021 9:09:00 GMT
Sounds like a handy spare to have in the breakdown kit. Do you recommend new or take a punt on used?
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Post by warpspeed on Jul 17, 2021 9:35:46 GMT
Replacing a twenty year old part with another twenty year old part, is not really preventative maintenance. Best to buy new, and keep your old original as an emergency spare.
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Post by Zed. on Jul 17, 2021 9:54:33 GMT
Replacing a THIRTY year old part with another THIRTY year old part, is not really preventative maintenance. Best to buy new, and keep your old original as an emergency spare. Edited & corrected for you relays can be removed from their plastic cases (& in most instances) their contacts are cleanable Rich.
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Post by atlex on Jul 17, 2021 19:37:01 GMT
Replacing a THIRTY year old part with another THIRTY year old part, is not really preventative maintenance. Best to buy new, and keep your old original as an emergency spare. Edited & corrected for you relays can be removed from their plastic cases (& in most instances) their contacts are cleanable Rich. I've already cleaned the 'bad one' and put it back into service. cleaning is super simple with the B6S8 since the contacts are well exposed once you take the cover off - the trick is to use a strip of paper, soaked in contact cleaner, (rather than sand paper which will just take the anti-corrosion finish off the contacts and make it fail faster next time.) I'm not sure if a new one is really worth a tank of fuel. www.mx5parts.co.uk/main-fuel-injection-relay-mk1-308512-p-1083.html
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