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Post by boringgit on Jul 5, 2016 17:04:08 GMT
Some of you may have read this before, as it's an old thread on PH. Can't recall how I came across it, but I remember reading something similar recently on PH. LINK HEREIt's certainly worth reading, and there is something anyone can take away from it. Going from an honest law abiding citizen to a Criminal locked away with scum because of one moment of silly driving. Very thought provoking stuff.
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Post by atlex on Jul 5, 2016 17:16:14 GMT
strongly recommended reading.
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Post by Dweenimus on Jul 5, 2016 17:57:51 GMT
That's a tough read.
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Post by ghostrider on Jul 5, 2016 19:17:44 GMT
That is quite the read... in my back yard too. I know the road (A686) and how it could all go wrong. This needs to be shared...
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Post by Horney on Jul 5, 2016 19:52:14 GMT
Read this as it unfolded, sobering stuff.
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Post by titch on Jul 5, 2016 21:40:24 GMT
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Post by AutotestAddict on Jul 6, 2016 7:37:52 GMT
I think any of us who have had a crash that is due to our own spirited driving can testify how quickly it can go from fun to misery. You absolutely have to drive with this in mind all the time.
The pain caused to all involved, just for a bit of sideways....
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Post by Meerkat on Jul 6, 2016 15:41:34 GMT
Sobering stuff indeed. It's all too easy to get a bit over-confident, but all it takes is one small error or a bit of bad luck and your life can be changed forever.
At least that chap didn't kill the motorcyclist. Can you imagine having to live with that for the rest of your life, never mind the consequences.
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Post by boringgit on Jul 6, 2016 16:36:32 GMT
A horrible thought indeed. A friend of mine was killed in a motorcycle accident last year, through no fault of anyone else, however I am sure the occupants of the car he rode into are scarred for life. Going to a funeral of somebody so young is an experience I never wish to repeat.
I myself was a massive tool a few years ago, an incident that again resulting in a driving disqualification. That was certainly a wake up call to my previous silly driving.
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Post by wannabe on Jul 6, 2016 17:01:43 GMT
I think we've all done silly things when we're young, I'm probably lucky to still be here when I think of some of the mistakes that are burned into my memory as 'Never do that again' things.
If we actually trained people to drive properly, starting in the early teens with education and off-road driving, so that people actually learn to control a vehicle before even getting on the road and have a positive mental attitude to driving well instead of inheriting the (bad) behaviours and attitudes of their parents, on-screen role models and 'cool' peers, it would go some way to dealing with the thrill-seeking behaviour prevalent in the young (and still to some extent in us oldies) and offset the fact that spatial awareness is still developing, even at that age, IIRC. If one is aware of one's own limitations, one can adapt appropriately.
I guess that even though this chap had a terrible experience through the mistake he made, and he and the unfortunate biker have to live with the consequences forever, if he can bring about an overall net benefit by making hundreds, if not thousands, of forumites across the country stop and think before they go balls-out along a road, then good will have come out of bad, to the credit of the chap.
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Post by 5alive on Jul 6, 2016 17:11:27 GMT
It reminded me of being launched over the roof of a car that pulled out on my girlfriend and me when i was 17,fortunately we were only doing about 25mph,but it wrote off my RD 250 and the car,we were only shook up apart from an 8 inch gash in my left leg but Karrens dad warned me to never take his daughter out again,shame,she was loverly it finished us before we got started so to speak
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Post by joeytalent on Jul 6, 2016 21:52:56 GMT
It is indeed sobering reading. As someone said in the PH thread, stories like that do more for my driving than a speed camera ever would. Hats off to the guy for being so candid and opening himself up on a public forum to try and raise awareness and affect others in a positive way.
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Post by ghostrider on Jul 9, 2016 8:29:14 GMT
If we actually trained people to drive properly, starting in the early teens with education and off-road driving, so that people actually learn to control a vehicle before even getting on the road and have a positive mental attitude to driving well instead of inheriting the (bad) behaviours and attitudes of their parents, on-screen role models and 'cool' peers, it would go some way to dealing with the thrill-seeking behaviour prevalent in the young (and still to some extent in us oldies) and offset the fact that spatial awareness is still developing, even at that age, IIRC. If one is aware of one's own limitations, one can adapt appropriately. I guess that even though this chap had a terrible experience through the mistake he made, and he and the unfortunate biker have to live with the consequences forever, if he can bring about an overall net benefit by making hundreds, if not thousands, of forumites across the country stop and think before they go balls-out along a road, then good will have come out of bad, to the credit of the chap. Excellent points made here, Wannabe. It feels like nowadays you are taught to pass a test rather than learn to drive. I've thought for the last 20yrs or so that a driving licence should be proportional to the power of the car (much in the same way a motorcycle licence has a part 1 & 2/Direct Access etc) and that licence would be dependent upon achieving the necessary training. To step from the car you did lessons in (FWD hatch) to your first car (likely the same type) to a powerful RWD car should never be under-estimated. Additionally (and somewhat inversely) car programmes/films showing some sideways track action translates into copying on the road IMHO. Role-models for young/new drivers are few and far between. A friend of mine gave me two pieces of advice - once for the car and once for the motorbike: 'Don't wait for an accident for you to change the way you drive' and for the bike 'it's no good getting nearly all the corners right'. He's a good friend...
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