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Post by wannabe on Feb 20, 2022 1:07:11 GMT
I'm looking at making tubular rear lower wishbones Will that be... erm... safe? lol |
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Post by batou on Feb 20, 2022 8:56:11 GMT
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Post by Zed. on Feb 20, 2022 11:34:17 GMT
evrything is safe, it's down to the use / user then things can get interesting..... as to d&d, highly confidence inspiring if their product description does not match the website url - front OR rear control-arms?  I'm looking to make rear lower wishbones to OEM dimensions but have a taller damper mount for the option of slightly increased ground clearance (the dampers I have are spring-preload not hight adjustable) more work ongoing.... Rich. |
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Post by batou on Feb 20, 2022 15:16:39 GMT
evrything is safe, it's down to the use / user then things can get interesting..... as to d&d, highly confidence inspiring if their product description does not match the website url - front OR rear control-arms? I'm looking to make rear lower wishbones to OEM dimensions but have a taller damper mount for the option of slightly increased ground clearance (the dampers I have are spring-preload not hight adjustable) more work ongoing.... Rich. Well spotted, might be an old url with new part on it. I guess they are more about fabrication that website tek  I mean you could just get some height adjustables but that would be the easy option right? Not the Zed option I'm guessing though. Maybe I'm not really seeing why you'd need this  |
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Post by Zed. on Feb 20, 2022 15:31:51 GMT
I mean you could just get some height adjustables but that would be the easy option right? this is true but I've a set of decent dampers and to 'upgrade' would eat some funds that I'm looking to use in other directions  Maybe I'm not really seeing why you'd need this pre-made failsafes? before I do something I like to think I've looked at all possible interactions - not always happening but try to  my car is low, the supposed 'race' hight but sometimes sacrificing something gains in other placesso more ground clearance can equil less bumpsteer and also allow me to eat a few more burgers  I've already massively overthought & overspent on what was supposedly a cheap car so why stop now  Rich. |
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Post by batou on Feb 20, 2022 15:52:19 GMT
Oh I see, thought you were just really attached to you're dampers . If I remember right you have the older ohlins (the ones with more rear travel right) PCV right? Yeah few quid to swap those out to something at least equal. Yeah, I suppose you can always correct that bump steer with different arms/knuckles etc but sometimes the simpler/cheaper route can be the better one, if a bit more ride height solves some issues then thats a win  |
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Post by Zed. on Feb 20, 2022 16:53:56 GMT
Oh I see, thought you were just really attached to you're dampers  . If I remember right you have the older ohlins (the ones with more rear travel right) PCV right? Yeah few quid to swap those out to something at least equal. Yeah, I suppose you can always correct that bump steer with different arms/knuckles etc but sometimes the simpler/cheaper route can be the better one, if a bit more ride height solves some issues then thats a win  Yup. K.I.S,S. Keep It Simple, Stupid  although some things I've built / bought are far from that...... I'm a great fan of origonal Mazda suspension bushes, not a simple component (like the 'parallel' bodied polybushes evryone creams over  ) but a complicated multi-layer bushing that's also designed to allow twisting & compliance - the rear suspenion is especially cleverly designed with toe-out on acceleration & toe-in on breaking  or is it the other way around  also it amuses me that people condemn oem / origoonal Mazda bushes as all that can be see is the 'edge' / rim not the actual rubber bushing... Rich. |
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Post by dickie on Feb 20, 2022 20:45:24 GMT
Properly made wishbones will always be better than OEM ones. IE made to a need not down to a price.
Some compliance in bushing is good on a road car.
Thats why I went for IL motorsports which are stiffer than stock but not as hard as polyurathane.
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Post by Zed. on Feb 20, 2022 21:17:00 GMT
Properly made wishbones will always be better than OEM ones. IE made to a need not down to a price I'll agree to this but... I've had an aftermarket pressed-steel origonal design top / front wishbone in my hand and it was terrible quality! as to aftermarket tubular top / front wishbones they're heavier than oem and I don't need the adjustment they offer so... Some compliance in bushing is good on a road car agreed  Thats why I went for IL motorsports which are stiffer than stock but not as hard as polyurathane. also last longer than poly with better qc and sometimes a more consistant mix / hardness  can you tell I'm not a fan of poly bushes and have seen some bad results / failures Rich. |
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Post by Zed. on Feb 22, 2022 18:08:31 GMT
so, Mx5 parts strike back had an email yesterday..... aparetly they're out of stock for the genuine Mazda front / top wishbones, interesting as before I ordered I checked the stock availability on the webshop & there was availability will try to phone & discuss tomorrow. not impressed. Rich. |
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Post by atlex on Feb 22, 2022 21:53:33 GMT
so, Mx5 parts strike back had an email yesterday..... aparetly they're out of stock for the genuine Mazda front / top wishbones, interesting as before I ordered I checked the stock availability on the webshop & there was availability  will try to phone & discuss tomorrow. not impressed. Rich. YAAARG! Cries Scimitar International. They're an odd lot. |
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Post by dadbif on Feb 22, 2022 21:58:35 GMT
Have you tried IL motorsport, they supply mx5 parts..
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Post by Zed. on Feb 24, 2022 17:57:44 GMT
Have you tried IL motorsport, they supply mx5 parts.. was hoping to get genuine Mazda parts still havn't phoned them..... Bugger. Rich. |
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Post by Zed. on Feb 24, 2022 18:16:31 GMT
another tangent although this does sorta follow the projekt-directin. trawling ebay & spied a pair of 'as new' Hispec billet aluminium, 2 piston handbrake calipers so a deal was made   & they were delivered today.  test fit on the 5's rear hub & mk2 'sport' sized disc. these calipers were made for a 10mm thick disc with 38mm diameter pistons and had a set of mintex 1144 pads so a win there.  these are conventional ' lug' mounted not radial like the others I have.  there IS a mount hole hidden behind the h/brake cable mount.  the h/brake cable mount, looks like it'll clash with the suspension top arm but should be clearance enough (& cable-operated h/brake is for parking!) as a reminder of my lack-of progress with the other calipers, here's a few images.  my 'quick' test caliper width spacers.  the radial-mount for comparison. now I need to measure a few times & make adapter-brackets... Rich. |
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Post by dickie on Feb 24, 2022 18:36:09 GMT
I am beginning to think Zed is a Nut Job !!
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my car is low, the supposed 'race' hight but sometimes sacrificing something gains in other placesso more ground clearance can equil less bumpsteer and also allow me to eat a few more burgers 
. If I remember right you have the older ohlins (the ones with more rear travel right) PCV right? Yeah few quid to swap those out to something at least equal.
) but a complicated multi-layer bushing that's also designed to allow twisting & compliance - the rear suspenion is especially cleverly designed with toe-out on acceleration & toe-in on breaking 
le sigh
Jul 15, 2023 20:03:52 GMT
le sigh
Jul 15, 2023 20:03:52 GMT