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Post by suggs84 on Nov 14, 2020 20:11:52 GMT
Great update and an interesting read regards the alignment settings I like what you've done at the top of the thread, the brochure pic and putting the spec list at the top of the first post as a kind of intro. I'm missing a spec list from my thread, may 'borrow' that idea soon with a tag to show i wasn't clever enough to think of it myself haha
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Post by batou on Nov 14, 2020 20:25:02 GMT
Great update and an interesting read regards the alignment settings I like what you've done at the top of the thread, the brochure pic and putting the spec list at the top of the first post as a kind of intro. I'm missing a spec list from my thread, may 'borrow' that idea soon with a tag to show i wasn't clever enough to think of it myself haha Thanks, yup I did a similar thing with a build thread for my mini r53 and I found a chap on one of the Roadster forums that did it in a bit more of a consise way when he updated something too which helps me keep track of maintenance too. Its bastardisation of the two methods so I can't take full credit .
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Post by suggs84 on Nov 15, 2020 12:07:12 GMT
As a side note, i also bought some of the Delrin door bushings same as yours from eBay as they seemed a good price compared to the MASSIVE cost of the Powerflex ones which i was not going to pay. Bought them at the end of October and they came in from Bulgaria (same as you?) so due to the current issues in the world they only arrived yesterday. No matter, just glad they made it. So that's something to do soon
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Post by wannabe on Nov 15, 2020 22:51:48 GMT
As a side note, i also bought some of the Delrin door bushings same as yours from eBay as they seemed a good price compared to the MASSIVE cost of the Powerflex ones which i was not going to pay. Bought them at the end of October and they came in from Bulgaria (same as you?) so due to the current issues in the world they only arrived yesterday. No matter, just glad they made it. So that's something to do soon I was sceptical of the difference they would make but they really do reduce door rattle!
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Post by wannabe on Nov 15, 2020 23:00:01 GMT
Alignment is interesting - the yanks seem to recommend more front camber than rear, but for those of us new to RWD and without Chris Harris / Tiff drift skillz, I think more camber on the rear is probably safer... lol I might have missed it - what steering rack are you running? IIRC I took some caster off mine when I last had it aligned, as I was running 4.5-5 degrees? which was heaaaaavvvy to get straight after cornering, especially without PAS! I also had more toe-in, I think - I think a previous alignment was either zero toe or slight toe out, which was certainly direct in terms of turn-in but also a total PITA WRT following cambers and truck grooves on motorways...
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Post by howardb66 on Nov 16, 2020 12:16:41 GMT
Alignment is interesting - the yanks seem to recommend more front camber than rear, but for those of us new to RWD and without Chris Harris / Tiff drift skillz, I think more camber on the rear is probably safer... lol I might have missed it - what steering rack are you running? IIRC I took some caster off mine when I last had it aligned, as I was running 4.5-5 degrees? which was heaaaaavvvy to get straight after cornering, especially without PAS! I also had more toe-in, I think - I think a previous alignment was either zero toe or slight toe out, which was certainly direct in terms of turn-in but also a total PITA WRT following cambers and truck grooves on motorways... I use caster 2.5 front 2.0 rear, 6 caster here. 0 toe F 0.1 total toe rear.
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Post by wannabe on Nov 16, 2020 13:10:22 GMT
Alignment is interesting - the yanks seem to recommend more front camber than rear, but for those of us new to RWD and without Chris Harris / Tiff drift skillz, I think more camber on the rear is probably safer... lol I might have missed it - what steering rack are you running? IIRC I took some caster off mine when I last had it aligned, as I was running 4.5-5 degrees? which was heaaaaavvvy to get straight after cornering, especially without PAS! I also had more toe-in, I think - I think a previous alignment was either zero toe or slight toe out, which was certainly direct in terms of turn-in but also a total PITA WRT following cambers and truck grooves on motorways... I use caster 2.5 front 2.0 rear, 6 caster here. 0 toe F 0.1 total toe rear. Thanks! Did you mean Camber 2.5/2/0 F/R? lol
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Post by suggs84 on Nov 16, 2020 14:13:12 GMT
As a side note, i also bought some of the Delrin door bushings same as yours from eBay as they seemed a good price compared to the MASSIVE cost of the Powerflex ones which i was not going to pay. Bought them at the end of October and they came in from Bulgaria (same as you?) so due to the current issues in the world they only arrived yesterday. No matter, just glad they made it. So that's something to do soon I was sceptical of the difference they would make but they really do reduce door rattle! This is good to hear, thanks! I mean for the low cost it's worth a try anyway but always good to hear they DO work!
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Post by howardb66 on Nov 16, 2020 14:52:36 GMT
I use caster 2.5 front 2.0 rear, 6 caster here. 0 toe F 0.1 total toe rear. Thanks! Did you mean Camber 2.5/2/0 F/R? lol Ar yes, many apologies. Camber 2.5F/2.0R😁
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Post by Zed. on Nov 16, 2020 15:18:54 GMT
Thanks! Did you mean Camber 2.5/2/0 F/R? lol Ar yes, many apologies. Camber 2.5F/2.0R😁 double caster must be faster?? isn't it?? Rich.
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Post by batou on Nov 16, 2020 21:55:39 GMT
Alignment is interesting - the yanks seem to recommend more front camber than rear, but for those of us new to RWD and without Chris Harris / Tiff drift skillz, I think more camber on the rear is probably safer... lol I might have missed it - what steering rack are you running? IIRC I took some caster off mine when I last had it aligned, as I was running 4.5-5 degrees? which was heaaaaavvvy to get straight after cornering, especially without PAS! I also had more toe-in, I think - I think a previous alignment was either zero toe or slight toe out, which was certainly direct in terms of turn-in but also a total PITA WRT following cambers and truck grooves on motorways... I find its better to set a car up to how you want it to react it in relation to your driving style and inputs, build the speed as you learn it that way, on street tyres your setup wont be that aggressive to create something dangerous and most alignment places who know these cars would probably point out anything odd like exessive toe out and a massive front to rear camber imbalance. Zero toe/out will create that feel, on a track it can be amazing but can get tiresome on the road sometimes. The Subaru has zero toe all round but not much camber and its fine but AWD grip with 2 LSD's helps with that More rear camber at the back than front (unless you go too far) creates understeer in these cars, which is considered safe, but, is that the kind of setup you want to learn to build speed from and create muscle memory for when you approach the limits of grip or go beyond them? The issue with understeer when your inexperienced (or even if your not) is it tends to happen when you haven't scrubbed off enough speed and your going at a fair lick, on a track this is not too bad because theres often run off, but on the road, there isn't, and the only way to really get away from understeer is to either turn out of it and straighten the wheels to ask less of them and regain grip but potentially run out of road, or unload the rear by lifting/braking and shift the weight on the fronts to regain grip, and its what most inexperienced drivers do, but with the problem of keeping the lock wound on. Now instead of dealing with progressive, manageble oversteer out of a turn your having to cope with a potential snap oversteer moment (the worst kind of oversteer) as the front regains grip and the rear has no weight and its not easy to catch... (I did this in a 90s Clio 1.4 Sport and ended up swapping ends and rear ending a tree). I'm not a particulary skilled driver but this is a starting point I'd like to start building a rapport with, I tend to corner harder and brake less on the road so this works for now but when I've explored this setp more I may dial more in and add in some stickier rubber but at the moment I'm happy with this as a starting point. Its a PAS rack, as the car was made with PAS I don't feel the need to get rid. The Exige was mega without PAS but it was built to be that way, also my mrs drives it occassionally, and while she can deadlift 1.5x her bodyweight she probably wouldn't appreciate parking it without PAS lol. Hmm, 4.5-5 isn't an excessive amount, and it depends what you mean by heavy... lots of caster will create a heavier feeling steering but also a much stronger self centering force so if you get it into a slide you can let go of the wheel and let it unwind, catch it, and (hopefully) hold a slide if your quick on the throttle, too little caster and you'll do a lot of work hand feeding the wheel as the self centering force will be very low and its much harder to correct/catch a slide. Edit. Also to note, your front and rear spring rates and any uprated ARBs will probably have some bearing on how you set the car up too. As a side note, i also bought some of the Delrin door bushings same as yours from eBay as they seemed a good price compared to the MASSIVE cost of the Powerflex ones which i was not going to pay. Bought them at the end of October and they came in from Bulgaria (same as you?) so due to the current issues in the world they only arrived yesterday. No matter, just glad they made it. So that's something to do soon Yup they came from Bulgaria, I was aware of this before I ordered and it was prior to the new lockdown but I was in no real rush. They do make a difference yes, great for the money, look forward to further improvements with a future harness/cabin brace
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Post by atlex on Nov 16, 2020 22:08:15 GMT
who's the bulgarian supplier ? Jass ?
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Post by batou on Nov 16, 2020 22:16:42 GMT
who's the bulgarian supplier ? Jass ? Ebay name is bel_air so...
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Post by suggs84 on Nov 16, 2020 22:48:00 GMT
In this year of 2020, NOTHING would surprise me anymore! lol
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Post by batou on Nov 17, 2020 20:35:57 GMT
So the overnight parts from Japan Huntingdon arrived today so I could sort the gear shift out, boring update really I know but this project isn't really that out there more of just a slight bit of kaizen each time, the little bits all add up eventually. The turret oil has been neglected since I did it in 2014 so its proper manky in there. I hate gearbox oil, I did a gearbox and front and rear diff oil change on the Subaru a few months back and I've only just about managed to get the stink off my garage clothes so the smell quickly brought back some gear oil PTSD . INTERIOR & AUDIO# Laile Beatrush Bronze Shift Lever Bush# Jass Performance Upper Shift BootMAINTENANCE# Gear shift turret oil refresh Castrol Systrans 75W-90
So the six year old shift boot is rekt, three seperate holes in it, reminds me of a knackered set of converse from back in the school days. The nylon collar isn't in bad shape so I'll hang onto that incase I, or someone else needs one in a pinch (ie. next time I do the turret oil I drop the brass collar into the abyss)...
I used the trusty Sealey AK47...... not that kind of AK, its a oil suction syringe, to get the old oil out its not looking tidy and I haven't cleaned the syringe since I did the Subaru so I'm gagging at this point. NA6CE Turret Oil Change by batousan, on Flickr So filled it with fresh oil and checked the fitment on the shifter with the new brass collar ready to go in, the brass collar doesn't stay on like the nylon one if your curious. I did wonder, and kind of expected this as theres no flex in brass for it it to pop it in like the nylon bush does. So to fit, I carefully placed the brass collar in the turret in place making sure I didn't drop it into the gearbox abyss below, then with the shifter vertically upright and lined up pop it in and bolt down the lower boot (which was in good nick thankfully). Also picked up the extra collar insulation which I missed last time, I still have all of the green fluffy insulation from when I renewed it before which isn't too bad. NA6CE Shifter w/ LAILE Beatrust Bushing by batousan, on Flickr The fitment of the new boot and its base lined up perfectly, Jass may have revised this as some people have suggested the fit isn't great on some of these previously. Also applied a small amount of shin-etsu to treat the rubber before I covered it all back up. Jass Performance Upper Shift Boot - Mazda Roadster / Miata / MX5 by batousan, on Flickr So after refitting all of the insulation and centre console I gave it a quick test and it feels so much better, some of that is of course the new turret oil thats in there and topped up to the right level but yeah thats what the gearchange should feel like. I know its not the most exciting thing but these small interface type things are your only connection with the car so getting them right can make a world of difference, the coilovers and alignment of course made a big difference to how the car drives, but the deeper and smaller diameter steering wheel, taller shift knob and uprated bushing as well as the door bushings have just made that connection tighter and less distracting. Also, part of these is because the next things on the list are big or expensive jobs... need to write a Christamas list... ユーノス ロードスタ S-SPECIAL NA6CE by batousan, on Flickr
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