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Post by minty on Aug 9, 2017 9:36:02 GMT
Soon I will be without job for first time in 21 years, and really want to do something different (no IT!!) Fancy doing something with my hands, thought about taking welding courses because I think I must own a plasma cutter lol. However, at 40, I have no idea where to start and I feel old...
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Post by howardb66 on Aug 9, 2017 10:23:09 GMT
Yeah that's right. Just out of interest, would you get on one of these flying buses without a couple of highly trained professionals at the pointy end who every 6 months have to prove their worth in all sorts of emergency scenarios that have a direct influence on your personal longevity? I'd definitely like them well trained. Plus there is no vertical drop with a bus unless the driver puts it through a railing. My point is very cheeky and takes the piss out of pilots but it is really more an industrial comment - increasingly the image given the dominance of low-cost carriers - the prestige has been sucked out over the decades. I'm unsure what there is left. The novelty of overseas trips has been lost. Right again. I had the misfortune to work for a LCC for 3 years. Without doubt the low point of my career. Went from there to a small business class only airline & the experience was totally opposite- we were treated as professionals & not micro-managed. We were positively encouraged to be more autonomous. That said, I have 2 cousins who work for an Irish LCC & absolutely love it (both their 1st jobs). Am back now working for one of the larger charter airlines which is great. |
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Post by howardb66 on Aug 9, 2017 10:25:02 GMT
Soon I will be without job for first time in 21 years, and really want to do something different (no IT!!) Fancy doing something with my hands, thought about taking welding courses because I think I must own a plasma cutter lol. However, at 40, I have no idea where to start and I feel old... Think about what you're good at? |
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Post by trikkisixx on Aug 9, 2017 11:14:53 GMT
Soon I will be without job for first time in 21 years, and really want to do something different (no IT!!) Fancy doing something with my hands, thought about taking welding courses because I think I must own a plasma cutter lol. However, at 40, I have no idea where to start and I feel old... Check out local college courses dude! My local Wiltshire College do evening welding courses for £150 and I think you can do a couple of levels of it too. Gets you started I guess. |
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Post by minty on Aug 9, 2017 12:36:45 GMT
Soon I will be without job for first time in 21 years, and really want to do something different (no IT!!) Fancy doing something with my hands, thought about taking welding courses because I think I must own a plasma cutter lol. However, at 40, I have no idea where to start and I feel old... Think about what you're good at? That's the problem!!  |
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Post by minty on Aug 9, 2017 12:38:18 GMT
Soon I will be without job for first time in 21 years, and really want to do something different (no IT!!) Fancy doing something with my hands, thought about taking welding courses because I think I must own a plasma cutter lol. However, at 40, I have no idea where to start and I feel old... Check out local college courses dude! My local Wiltshire College do evening welding courses for £150 and I think you can do a couple of levels of it too. Gets you started I guess. Yup Bournemouth college to City and guilds level 1 TIG welding, and Level 2. Trouble is they're once a week for 18 weeks, ideally I would want a more intensive course. Still, beggars n all that... |
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Post by trikkisixx on Aug 9, 2017 13:03:23 GMT
Check out local college courses dude! My local Wiltshire College do evening welding courses for £150 and I think you can do a couple of levels of it too. Gets you started I guess. Yup Bournemouth college to City and guilds level 1 TIG welding, and Level 2. Trouble is they're once a week for 18 weeks, ideally I would want a more intensive course. Still, beggars n all that... Yeah same as with Wiltshire. I'm not sure you even get a City and Guilds with it though, hence why so cheap. I might look into the Bournemouth one though, sounds better. Wow, maybe not at that price  |
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Post by minty on Aug 9, 2017 17:00:51 GMT
Yeah £950 but compared to IBM courses that's stupidly cheap haha.
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Post by Ptichka on Aug 9, 2017 17:26:36 GMT
Just out of interest, would you get on one of these flying buses without a couple of highly trained professionals at the pointy end who every 6 months have to prove their worth in all sorts of emergency scenarios that have a direct influence on your personal longevity? Depends if highly trained professionals have designed the system that makes it fly without a pilot. |
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Post by howardb66 on Aug 9, 2017 20:52:14 GMT
Just out of interest, would you get on one of these flying buses without a couple of highly trained professionals at the pointy end who every 6 months have to prove their worth in all sorts of emergency scenarios that have a direct influence on your personal longevity? Depends if highly trained professionals have designed the system that makes it fly without a pilot. So what happens when that system/structure fails? |
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Post by atlex on Aug 9, 2017 21:01:43 GMT
Depends if highly trained professionals have designed the system that makes it fly without a pilot. So what happens when that system/structure fails? Yup. Take a combination of failed/patchy ILS, some sort of side wind gusting and a busy airport using an abnormal approach. Don't expect a GPS landing let alone anything else from a computer. Aircraft really, really need Mk.1 Human Beings as pilots. The air can be *very* chaotic and computers don't react fast enough for all sorts of technical-logistical reasons. The trained human brain is an amazing thing. ... Now controvertialy I'm pro computer-control for trains because that is a far far more controlled environment, put it this way, if they're going to computerize anything it'll be trains first, not planes. (See DLR..) |
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Post by howardb66 on Aug 10, 2017 8:12:36 GMT
So what happens when that system/structure fails? Yup. Take a combination of failed/patchy ILS, some sort of side wind gusting and a busy airport using an abnormal approach. Don't expect a GPS landing let alone anything else from a computer. Aircraft really, really need Mk.1 Human Beings as pilots. The air can be *very* chaotic and computers don't react fast enough for all sorts of technical-logistical reasons. The trained human brain is an amazing thing. ... Now controvertialy I'm pro computer-control for trains because that is a far far more controlled environment, put it this way, if they're going to computerize anything it'll be trains first, not planes. (See DLR..) Phew, thought I was out of a job then. Agree with the trains logic though. |
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Post by Ptichka on Aug 11, 2017 9:02:33 GMT
Depends if highly trained professionals have designed the system that makes it fly without a pilot. So what happens when that system/structure fails? It was meant as a slightly facetious comment from an engineering point of view. The outcome wouldn't be good, similar to when a human fails. I'm actually against automation as I quite enjoy doing things myself, plus massive automation brings ethics into the mix and that's a whole other story. |
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Post by Ptichka on Aug 11, 2017 9:18:38 GMT
Yup. Take a combination of failed/patchy ILS, some sort of side wind gusting and a busy airport using an abnormal approach. Don't expect a GPS landing let alone anything else from a computer. Aircraft really, really need Mk.1 Human Beings as pilots. The air can be *very* chaotic and computers don't react fast enough for all sorts of technical-logistical reasons. The trained human brain is an amazing thing. ... Now controvertialy I'm pro computer-control for trains because that is a far far more controlled environment, put it this way, if they're going to computerize anything it'll be trains first, not planes. (See DLR..) Phew, thought I was out of a job then. Agree with the trains logic though. Had to Google DLR, first thought was the German space agency, maybe I need to leave my spacecentric bubble more often... Fully agree with trains, I don't think many people would have a problem going on an automated train. However, I imagine it'd take a very long time to change public perception in regards to automated air travel. They really need human pilots now, however we've returned winged spacecraft from Earth orbit to performed automated landings, X47 has performed automated carrier launch/landing ops and probe/drogue air to air refuelling along with other advances in automation outside of aerospace. You only have to look at these to imagine where it's going though. Admittedly these are almost 'closed course' examples and receive far more robust data than an aircraft currently receives, however that could be argued as a problem with ground/space systems and not of that of the vehicle itself. Either way hopefully there's a while yet before this all becomes common place as I'm actually not much of a fan of the whole idea. |
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Post by myothercarsa2cv on Aug 11, 2017 22:23:22 GMT
I wanted to be an RAF pilot, but failed the medical (too tall...). Just as well really as shortly after that the RAF had to bomb actual people rather than Wales and that didn't sound like so much fun after all. Funny how your perspective on these things changes as you get older...
Dream job today would probably be running my own cafe bar garage type thing. I love a good natter though so unlikely to ever get any work done!
I'm lucky at the moment as I enjoy my job, have a great boss and it pays the bills just about so no desperation to change careers.
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