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Sept 27, 2022 9:46:02 GMT
Post by atlex on Sept 27, 2022 9:46:02 GMT
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Sept 27, 2022 9:47:03 GMT
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Post by atlex on Sept 27, 2022 9:47:03 GMT
Thinking about the 1.8 BBR kit minus ecu, wondering if my current MS2 will do the job. It runs on MAP and IAT on my present setup. Any thoughts? TPS + IAT aka TPS Primary Load is what'll do it. MS2 will be fine. No need to change ECU. |
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Sept 27, 2022 9:52:51 GMT
Post by batou on Sept 27, 2022 9:52:51 GMT
E L A B O R A T E  |
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Sept 27, 2022 10:12:25 GMT
Post by lowender on Sept 27, 2022 10:12:25 GMT
Thinking about the 1.8 BBR kit minus ecu, wondering if my current MS2 will do the job. It runs on MAP and IAT on my present setup. Any thoughts? TPS + IAT aka TPS Primary Load is what'll do it. MS2 will be fine. No need to change ECU. Excellent. Ta! |
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Sept 27, 2022 19:05:48 GMT
Post by Zed. on Sept 27, 2022 19:05:48 GMT
E L A B O R A T E I'll take a wild (& slightly un-educated  ) guess that the 'ME' bit in your previous post has some part in it......  Rich. |
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Sept 27, 2022 19:51:34 GMT
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Post by batou on Sept 27, 2022 19:51:34 GMT
E L A B O R A T E I'll take a wild (& slightly un-educated ) guess that the 'ME' bit in your previous post has some part in it...... Rich. Hmm, it was between that and a link g4x but I don't know feking noone who's done a 1.6 itb setup on a g4x. What's so bad about the ME?  I know of a number of 1.6 itb builds on Me, Inc the guy I'm buying the kit from so was a no brainer. |
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Sept 27, 2022 20:37:34 GMT
Post by atlex on Sept 27, 2022 20:37:34 GMT
Haris has one and it's very good. I'm in the process of moving to G4X also.
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Sept 27, 2022 21:42:47 GMT
Post by Zed. on Sept 27, 2022 21:42:47 GMT
I'll take a wild (& slightly un-educated ) guess that the 'ME' bit in your previous post has some part in it...... Rich. Hmm, it was between that and a link g4x but I don't know feking noone who's done a 1.6 itb setup on a g4x. What's so bad about the ME? I know of a number of 1.6 itb builds on Me, Inc the guy I'm buying the kit from so was a no brainer. I've no issue with 'ME' but it's fallen out of favour in some circles my 'tame' dyno operator doesn't like ME's tuning software as an example  personal favourites are MBE & DTA but I actually have an 'ME221' (that I'm playing with) and a 'Speeduino' that's interesting (& will probably end up on my white 1990 Eunos  ) Rich. |
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Sept 28, 2022 7:20:06 GMT
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Post by dadbif on Sept 28, 2022 7:20:06 GMT
They all simply control spark and fuel! It’s internet fashion…
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Post by Zed. on Sept 28, 2022 8:33:10 GMT
They all simply control spark and fuel! It’s internet fashion… some less simply than others  Rich. |
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Sept 28, 2022 11:46:53 GMT
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Post by batou on Sept 28, 2022 11:46:53 GMT
They all simply control spark and fuel! It’s internet fashion… some less simply than others Rich. More compelexity = more user error. I'm a programmer, simplicity can be considered and accounted for (who knows maybe the code an be "tweaked") I deal with over complexity, too many variables and logic paths mixed with ambiguity day in day out. I don't really want to make that a home hobby too lol. For me, as long as it meets the needs then choosing the tuner should be more important than what fancy ECU you want. As long as their is enough granularity for small throttle inputs and I can get enough throttle travel to hit 100% then it's just a matter of giving it what it needs to run. If that means an 1100rpm idle just to get it to idle then so be it lololol |
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Post by swordspork on Sept 28, 2022 12:31:38 GMT
I'm in the 1k rpm idle club  |
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Sept 28, 2022 13:21:00 GMT
Post by atlex on Sept 28, 2022 13:21:00 GMT
I think most ITBS idle on sufficiently open idle screws and a maybe a bit of spark scatter. aye.
Now I've a question - I've got a timing gun. It works. When I use it, it shows my timing is off, but I've locked the timing to a fix 10 degree. The idle is a bit higher than the normal guide suggests.
If I've set it to fixed firing mode is that enough to time the engine at any RPM or is recommended RPM linked, in some way, to the latency of the timing gun's flashes ?
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Post by swordspork on Sept 28, 2022 14:35:15 GMT
I can help here, I think. I just did some work that required I reset the base timing.
I queried exactly that with the tuner that has helped me tweak my map for the cams I'm using.
My understanding is that when you lock the timing with the ECU it is independent of rpm and temp. Therefore if you're idling around 1000 rpm rather than the standard 850 rpm that shouldn't make a difference.
If the timing is off when you use the gun it may be that the trigger offset needs changing accordingly.
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Sept 28, 2022 21:40:08 GMT
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Post by dadbif on Sept 28, 2022 21:40:08 GMT
If you set your timing to 10 degrees on your ECU you then need to set the timing on the engine to 10 degrees by adjusting your CAS, otherwise you will always be off.
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) guess that the 'ME' bit in your previous post has some part in it......
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Jul 15, 2023 20:03:52 GMT
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